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Orbital Bombardment Disappointment.

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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#61 - 2013-01-16 22:04:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
OK guys, enough. You don’t know what the frack you talking about in your cuts at me. You make assumptions (know what they say about that).

I do not want EVE to cater to me. I never said that, that is your (ahem) entitled opinion. I would love to have the time to be in null sec with the Inf1deles. I want to have the time to take part in Incursion fleets. I would love to spend hours and hours playing EVE, and I am envious of those who can. So I do missions, and just tried OB.

“Hardly makes use of services” . . . dude you have no idea of what I have done over the last 5 years. Over that time, I have spent 2-3 hours every night (probably about 95%) of the time playing EVE.

I accept the fact that all activities (in EVE) are not suited for my play style. I can be disappointed, but I am still here. But the disappointment is not with the EVE game itself. The disappointment is in what I mentioned before, like trying to follow the mechanics of OB in there admitted vague steps. And what does posting on the forum do, blows things out of proportion as usual.

Jen, the game does not revolve around me. I never said that. I don’t want EVE to revolve around me. Where did you get that, or did you pull that out of your *ss. You assume what you perceive, which isn’t based on fact. Don’t read words into what I wrote. Oh, and your football example was just plain stupid.

Oh, baby, I would love to have this post stickied.

Could we get back to the OP, or is this where it digressed to. Maybe just lock this, as what more can really be said.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#62 - 2013-01-17 00:02:16 UTC
Suicide ganking planets in hisec.

The biggest loot pinadas ever! Who knows what will 'drop out'!!!
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-01-17 05:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
Sarah Schneider wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
So DUST is a super HI-sec expansion in FW-lowsec,you have to have approval to shoot at planets.

So how would you feel, if someone activates their "mega death ray" out of nowhere, not even in grid, not even in the same system with you, while you're battling some gang or doing missions or incursions or whatever and cause your ship and everything around you to suddenly explode?


how would you feel ,if you have to ask the asteroid to shoot the miner.

can say stupid things also ,you know. ooow wait,......i always do Shocked

R.S.I2014
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-01-17 17:29:24 UTC
So we don,t ask permissions in EvE ,but we have to when Console kids come into picture?
So Dust is the best thing happening to EvE,right?

R.S.I2014
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2013-01-17 18:49:27 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.



which makes it as lame as we all expected it to be.
"May we have permission to nuke the hell out of you from space?"
"no im not telling you where we are..."
"oh ok then... guess i will go back to being a carebear in the padded cell they call high sec..."

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-01-17 20:13:16 UTC
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.



which makes it as lame as we all expected it to be.
"May we have permission to nuke the hell out of you from space?"
"no im not telling you where we are..."
"oh ok then... guess i will go back to being a carebear in the padded cell they call high sec..."


You still have the chance to shoot at planets,must count for something

i wonder ,will you get concorded ,if you could shoot at a planet without approval

R.S.I2014
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#67 - 2013-01-17 20:31:24 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


i wonder ,will you get concorded ,if you could shoot at a planet without approval

Seems like a reasonably appropriate reaction. After all, no one asked to be blown up, therefore probably an outlaw action: Concordokken!

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-01-17 20:39:09 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?!

CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me.

*sad face*


Compared to the power output of even a small planet, an Erebus produces practically 0 power.
Applying thats planets power output to high energy x-ray lasers ... even a titan pilot should think twice about making that bombardment approach run, into the firing range of said defences.

I say give the Dust Bunnies weapons that can 1-2 shot ANY non-allied ship in orbit.
Give them Soon™
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#69 - 2013-01-17 20:53:36 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:


I say give the Dust Bunnies weapons that can 1-2 shot ANY non-allied ship in orbit.
Give them Soon™

Should this come to pass, I predict a new Dusty Bunny joke:

"What do you call a dessy in low orbit?"
"Skeet."

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#70 - 2013-01-17 20:58:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Ion Kirst wrote:


Jen, the game does not revolve around me. I never said that. I don’t want EVE to revolve around me. Where did you get that, or did you pull that out of your *ss. You assume what you perceive, which isn’t based on fact. Don’t read words into what I wrote. Oh, and your football example was just plain stupid.[


Dude,you owe me a keyboard, I just spewed soda everywhere reading this. I'll try not to read words into your word no more, promise.

Fact remains you are doing it wrong. I have to wonder at people like you, you make a post, MULTIPLE people tell you you've got it wrong, and it's everyone else's fault. Amazing.
Ranzabar
Doomheim
#71 - 2013-01-17 21:41:19 UTC
Here we have the expensive development of Dust...on a PS3 Ugh, and then you make it headscratchingly intriguing to engage these guys. That business model only works if 6 people who know what to do are paying $1,238,200.76 a month to play.

It's like advertising a new Porsche, setting up dealerships, scheduling test drives, then giving the buyer a cardboard cutout of the car and hoping he'll be satisfied making vrooom sounds.

Weird.

Abide
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#72 - 2013-01-17 23:24:26 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


i wonder ,will you get concorded ,if you could shoot at a planet without approval

Seems like a reasonably appropriate reaction. After all, no one asked to be blown up, therefore probably an outlaw action: Concordokken!


Should be able to suicide gank entire planetary civilian populations in hisec...
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#73 - 2013-01-18 02:15:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ion Kirst wrote:


Jen, the game does not revolve around me. I never said that. I don’t want EVE to revolve around me. Where did you get that, or did you pull that out of your *ss. You assume what you perceive, which isn’t based on fact. Don’t read words into what I wrote. Oh, and your football example was just plain stupid.[


Dude,you owe me a keyboard, I just spewed soda everywhere reading this. I'll try not to read words into your word no more, promise.

Fact remains you are doing it wrong. I have to wonder at people like you, you make a post, MULTIPLE people tell you you've got it wrong, and it's everyone else's fault. Amazing.



The definition of amazing in this post is the people who cannot read!

People like me? Wow another dig? How about people like you? (touche)

I originally said that I followed the steps laid out in "OB Mechanics". It was admitted that the steps should have included more information, and that they were vague. I'd have everyone read it if they could. The mechanics did not say, that the mercs in those 48 systems could not participate in OB. So when I got to one of the systems I asked them. (one guy said they were just driving their jeeps around in circles.) They didn't know when they would need an OB strike.

I just didn't want to "shoot a planet", I wanted to assist the mercs on the surface. I found out that I couldn't, and that was the disappointment. That's all there was too this.

Actually, I did it right. I went to the mercs home planet, talked with them, and asked if they needed my help. If they needed help we would have gone on from there.

. . . and Jen, you did it again, you've accused me blaming other people, when I didn't. You just can't help yourself can you.

Oh, wait, maybe I read it wrong. Let me quote you . . . so your saying . . . I make a post, MULTIPLE people tell me I've got it wrong and it's their fault. Wow, I misunderstood, I thought you were slamming me again. So now your blaming them? Amazing. (See how that works.)


This has got to stop

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
fukier
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-01-18 02:54:32 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it.


is it ok if i quote this post in a year when dust is a massive hit?
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
Meraxes Tykjen
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2013-02-07 21:03:32 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
[quote=Arronicus] Dust is actually fun. [quote]


Ask yourself will it still be fun when all the console gamers get tired of yet another FPS and choose to go play COD 5000 and you are still sitting there all by your lonesome self shooting at nothing or constantly being sniped by some pimple faced teenager sitting in his parents basement.

Dont get me wrong I love the idea of integrating a planet game with EVE but I think they would have have better sucess if they had made it a strategy game similiar to Civilization and not a FPS and made it for the PC not some outdated console that will be extinct in a few years.

I have played dust and I actually enjoyed it but after 30 mins or so It became alittle mundane and this is coming from someone who loved COD and who played it constantly for hours on end.


The less COD babies that's in Dust 514, the better. Thanks for your input. Hopefully all COD players think the same about Dust 514 and leaves it well alone.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#76 - 2013-02-07 21:15:19 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... Lol

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#77 - 2013-02-07 21:44:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... Lol

If the DUST bunnies are in your corp (or at least under contract and in your coms) it doesn't take even as much effort as organizing a hot drop. Not to say that organizing a hot drop doesn't require organization and planning, but it's really not that big a deal when your corps standard operating procedure already has the right people in the right places with the right skills... like most "good" corps do.

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Zapp Brenigan
Ishukone Black Watch
#78 - 2013-02-07 22:17:11 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?!

CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me.

*sad face*


I'm sure most Dust Bunnies would be all for randoms OBing them as long as they have the ability to target orbiting ships with ICBM's or an orbital defense grid. I'd love to see the whining when kb's start filling up with 'Random Pansy' killed by 'DustBunny123' using 'Orbital Beam Weapon X'.

"Zapp Brenigan is the greatest Starfleet Captain since Han Solo." - Malcolm Reynolds (Battlestar Galactica)
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#79 - 2013-02-07 23:22:41 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... Lol

If the DUST bunnies are in your corp (or at least under contract and in your coms) it doesn't take even as much effort as organizing a hot drop. Not to say that organizing a hot drop doesn't require organization and planning, but it's really not that big a deal when your corps standard operating procedure already has the right people in the right places with the right skills... like most "good" corps do.


Just read my signature and learn on the improvements of adding yet another awfully time comsuming multiplayer chore to EVE when you compare it to what people actually does in game.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#80 - 2013-02-07 23:22:56 UTC
Zapp Brenigan wrote:
Desert Ice78 wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?!

CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me.

*sad face*


I'm sure most Dust Bunnies would be all for randoms OBing them as long as they have the ability to target orbiting ships with ICBM's or an orbital defense grid. I'd love to see the whining when kb's start filling up with 'Random Pansy' killed by 'DustBunny123' using 'Orbital Beam Weapon X'.


Will the Eve OB pilot get one KM for every dust bunny they nuke from orbit?