Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bear with me please, this might hurt a bit......

After reading the Nullsec sections of the latest CSM notes this got me to thinking.

If access / use of Null to small corps / gangs is as much of an agreed upon issue as the CSM notes infer then why not use a hybrid system between wormholes / jumpgates and complexes?

Backstory - due to political pressure centeraing on a future lack of natural resources Concord have been assigned to key jump bridge points through null security space ease passage to sort after resources and minerals in these lawless regions.

Implementation - Concord policed Jump bridges which span certain areas of null in main (but not currently inhabited) junction systems.

For example taking Pure blind as an example - you have a high sec Jump gate in Lonetrek (a few systems 'inland' to highsec from Torrinos.)

This jump gate may be reliant on standings and costs involved inclide a monetary isk cost, also a timed gate system ie ships only of a certain size or number every hour or so (finer points to be worked out by Devs) - maybe even travel charters?

There must always be a limit in place to keep gangs small, and in sub caps.

This gate would be the starting point of a very loose network of systems connecting these gates.
For instance the first Jump from Highsec might take you to KLY-C0.

This would be a good hub as there are many exits and no stations - this means the newly entered 'gang' has to travel maybe 2 or 3 jumps through null to the next gate, and maybe another 4 or 5 to the next - banching out further and further with more nullsec systems to traverse the further you go.

Now the actual gates would be policed by concord - why?, because the idea of this is to get people active in null - not camp a jumpgate for 8 hours in snipers waiting for some poor sod to come through.

How about Concord capitals and Battleships - and a warp disruption nullifier batteries to allow people to warp off.
Concord of course only repond to aggression in range of the gate, but as soon as warped away - your on your own kids :).

I think there is the basis here for some kind of structure to allow smaller corps and gangs into null.
Hopefully the more knowledgable about these things (and by that I mean CCP Devs who look at this stuff every day) take a look and give it some thought.


Would appreciate comments that are constructive from players.

By constructive - if you find holes, try to patch them - making them bigger is just a waste of chi.

Maybe - but tbh when nullsec gates are camped by blobs, would allow access to smal gangs of 3 or 4 who would like to take in industrial / mining ships.

Obviously would need to be balanced risk / reward but I'm sure it would develop to a scout/jump mechanic for gangs involved.

There would still be thye additional interest from the 'other' side who could not camp the jump gates, but can hunt.

I can also see a benefit to solo PvP in eve here.


Picture a gang entering null, they have 4 jumps to their destination or next bridge.
A lone scout notices their scout and follows, or guess where they are going - gang moves towards destination, Black drop on route - BOOM counter drop from ingressing corp alliance..

...see how this builds :) - once the system is in place the players will be inventive.

Less lame gate camping, more cat and mouse and hot drops :)

wait what.

It should be impossible to defend chokepoints and guard the entrances to the sov you hold?


Why?

It already is if one cyno alt gets through. Only people who gate camp to catch asshats care about choke points.

You work for black frog freight by any chance? - cost involved
I am talking small gang/corp not alliance willing to pay 100 mil just to move ships to lose.



Why would it be impossible?
A couple of small gangs in your sov (see part about limited gates) and you cant defend it? - then you dont deserve to have any foothold in null.



Control it? this is purely about access and 'mixing it up' slightly. Access for small gang PvP and industrial ops.
Its about giving the little guy (see CSM notes) options. Them getting a taste of the isk to be made in null, and the drive to use null rather than it be a no-go area to anyone who doesnt have 1000 ship meat shield to defend it for them.



Again this is not pureley about gate camps / sov / or PvP - The examples you put forward (BO bridge, Titan Bridge, WH's, Covert Ships, Interdiction nullified t3's... and more) are not relevant to small gang mechanics moving out to the outer reaces of null, especially for brawler fits and industrial.



The issue is EXACTLY access to null. The lack of objectives are only limited by lack of imagination. I have lived in null both with small corps under alliances who run small but very effective fleets, and even solo for about 4 months.
There is plenty to do and a **** load of hassle to be caused by small gangs vs large noob-blob alliances.
An example was a recent employer of my alt, small alliance turned red by one of the larger alliance.
As an actual fleet member 90% of engagements ended up with the blob leroying into well planned and executed battles.
The smaller force through excellent leadership totally kicked ass.

see answer to Commander Ted above.

Just because you cant hold SOV thats not the be all and end all.
There would be money to be made through rattin, plexes, mining and pvp (or ganking).
A kind of area of operations would probably be set out at which the smaller entity might get 2 or 3 weeks decent income - until someone sees them there and can be bothered to kick them out - or until another gang wants to take ove. This could spill over into high sec war decs.
Imagine - Two corps fighting for possession of certain system deep into null - I can see a game here, and new allegience opportunities.

True this might burst some nullbears bubble, but tbh thats would be upto the alliance to clear these areas of the 'opportunists.

More game content cant be bad, tho it might make alliances have to play the game more :)

The alliance borders upto the system the bridge is in - just not the bridge itself.