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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#581 - 2013-01-17 12:57:55 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
Are you ******* kidding me?

The POS revamp is one of hte biggest things that CCP should really be working on

What planet do you guys on the CSM actually live on these days?



Er, you realise that this was CCP, not the CSM? The CSM have been pushing for a POS rework for years.


I know... i jumped the gun and have since edited my post

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Bella TheUnknown
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#582 - 2013-01-17 12:58:00 UTC
Make my home bearable, not just strain of outdated mechanics from times when POS'es where meant for one person to live in. Corps and alliances live POS'es now and your attention is required now, not later...
Herbert Golls
The Regency
The Monarchy
#583 - 2013-01-17 12:59:34 UTC
Posting for please please fix POS systems!

Does it improve the chances of this happening if I post with all toons?
DoomDoom Revolution
Handsome Seeding
Sigma Grindset
#584 - 2013-01-17 13:00:34 UTC
I live out a POS everyday, I am a part of the 'small' community
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#585 - 2013-01-17 13:01:07 UTC
My enthusiasm for Eve was sapped the moment I read the minutes and saw what Jon said about POSes. The real kick in the teeth is how they :

1. Say that they don't want to do major theme releases

2. Bundle POSes into a major theme for sov redesign

3. Say that they can't redo POSes because it's too much work for one theme

Well, gee, maybe the answer is to NOT bundle POSes into a sov redesign, genius!

Sadly, I think modular POSes are the first causality in Eve as a result of Dust. Massive resources are now going to be tied into integrating Dust into a sov rework. That would be fine with me if it wasn't at the expense of a feature they've been teasing us about for the last year.

This kind of damn-the-torpedoes approach of not listening to what the players want is almost Hilmarian.
Cassandra Blackmore
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#586 - 2013-01-17 13:01:22 UTC
Another in favor of POS revamp and a certain dev's sacking, or at the very least demotion...
Gatts BlackBlood
Vector Foundation
#587 - 2013-01-17 13:01:33 UTC
Sedilis wrote:
Outrageous u-turn CCP!

Because of the terrible security on POS we w-space corp are forced to exclude large parts of the player base from our recruitment. When we explained this to Greyscale and Masterplan last March they could see this hits your bottom line.

We don't want the whole company for a whole expansion.

We don't even need a whole new pos system.

WE NEED SECURE SHIP STORAGE.

Please give us access control lists on Ship Maintenance Arrays!


This at the least. Fix this ****.
Spillrag
Neurotoxin Control
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#588 - 2013-01-17 13:01:52 UTC
make this so, or at least make living improvments such as POS maitinence easier
Ethan Revenant
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#589 - 2013-01-17 13:02:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Revenant
While I am dubious about the power of threadnaughts, the irony of wanting to do things for the enablers that cross all types of space and gameplay but oh gosh not POSes that's just not widespread enough is hilarious. When I think of enablers, I think roles and POS management first and foremost.

I'm sorry, CCP, but if you're looking at feeding the enablers and instigators (you numbered the latter at a theoretical 2000 and want to improve their lives, and I'm sure the people who suffer through POS interfaces number far more than that), you're going to have to start on POSes sometime. POSes touch all aspects of gameplay. Industry is a pain with POSes. The POS environment dictates a different kind of PvP than stations do. I honestly thought, upon reading the minutes, that the great improvement that would cut across all reaches of space would be POSes and industry because what else does?

It makes sense that it might take more than an expansion's worth of time. That's fine. But it would be nice if you could tell us what you're thinking about POSes and we could tell you what we think of that so that it's clear ahead of time. It would also be nice if you could at least touch up POS roles/interface/industry if it's not all subject to change in the next year.
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#590 - 2013-01-17 13:03:09 UTC
+1
If POS were not such a huge headache I would actually run one myself.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#591 - 2013-01-17 13:04:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Mayhem
Quote:
I challenge you to show me any system without a POS.


But.. Jita has no POSes, and it has the highest population in EVE! That means that POSes kill player populations!

/sarcasm
Blood Valentino
Isuuaya Manufacturing
#592 - 2013-01-17 13:04:20 UTC
I never post on the forums, but, The POS system as archaic, and that is something we can all agree on. It needs to be redone.

I logged in specifically for this one reason, to give my opinion.

I think I can speak for everyone when I say, I'm not really that interested in new frigs or destroyers all the time, I want some good hard work on core things that are very old, outdated etc. IE: Drones, POS, Industry as a whole.

Lets stir the pot, guys. If you don't stir the pot things become rotten and stagnate, IE: Drones, POS, Industry as a whole, Tech 2 production
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#593 - 2013-01-17 13:04:48 UTC
+1

Although I'm afraid that POSes could actually become worse, I certainly support POS overhaul in general.

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Teeheelol
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#594 - 2013-01-17 13:06:20 UTC
The security of arrays and such really need overhauling.

It's a nightmare in a large WH corp that DEPENDS on POS.
tofucake prime
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#595 - 2013-01-17 13:06:39 UTC
129 members of Aquila. Only a few "manage" the POSes, but we all live in them.

lol
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#596 - 2013-01-17 13:07:02 UTC
Please make starbases better, CCP.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Sharon Tate
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#597 - 2013-01-17 13:07:15 UTC
The current POS system causes AIDS, illiteracy, and kicks kittens and puppies.

Fix that god awful system, please.
Ile Disco
The Tax Men
#598 - 2013-01-17 13:07:28 UTC
A POS isn't just for fanfest it's for life, fix them please.
Aerallo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#599 - 2013-01-17 13:07:59 UTC
Please fix this system. It is long overdue and deserves more attention than you give other content.
faerie neu
I'm afraid of nullbears
#600 - 2013-01-17 13:09:33 UTC
So wait, they made the inventory worse than it was - it's a pita to do anything within a pos shield because of it and I don't even manage the farking thing - and now they want to leave the whole mess people have been complaining about for ages to rot until we're all sick of actually playing the game ?

I guess I don't really need the wh macgyver alt I reactivated a few weeks ago then.