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Is Proteus viable for Hisec exploration?
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Astratus
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-16 13:50:08 UTC
Hi,


I'm thinking of getting a t3 cruiser.

Just wanted to ask if proteus is viable for hisec exploration (and later in lowsec) and if it is if someone has a decent fit (all in 1 swiss army knife fit).
I know that the tengu is better but it takes too long for me to train for at this point in time.
Dzajic
#2 - 2013-01-16 14:38:42 UTC
You can do highsec explo in Ishkur. So yeah. If you want fastest time in all sites just go for Tengu.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#3 - 2013-01-16 15:35:39 UTC
Proteus is *second best* imo for exploration. I use one frequently, and it works, BUT: Limited midslots... you will need to carry your electronics mods in cargo and dock up to switch fittings out. I don't have my fitting available, but it uses drones (20 lights), railguns, sisters gear, active repper, specific resist mods.
Leetha Layne
#4 - 2013-01-16 16:21:38 UTC
Proteus works fine in High Sec.
Vince Snetterton
#5 - 2013-01-17 07:58:29 UTC
Leetha Layne wrote:
Proteus works fine in High Sec.


The gun version does.
The drone version is toast, as the many frigs in a low end anom trash drones in seconds.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#6 - 2013-01-17 11:50:06 UTC
Just to put it in context. highsec exploration is a joke, you are better off doing lvl 3 missions for an income. any ship that can run a lvl 3 will probably able to do high sec exploration.

/Princess

 ♥ 
Sgt LoveDragon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-01-17 11:58:18 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
Just to put it in context. highsec exploration is a joke, you are better off doing lvl 3 missions for an income. any ship that can run a lvl 3 will probably able to do high sec exploration.

/Princess



Yeah ^ this. You wont have anny issue highsec exploration in a proteus. It will do your lowsec stuff as well. Get used to switching out the mods in stations- its part of the beauty of the T3 and what makes it so versatile. Well worth the investment for exploration.
LordSpock
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-01-17 12:41:39 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
Just to put it in context. highsec exploration is a joke, you are better off doing lvl 3 missions for an income. any ship that can run a lvl 3 will probably able to do high sec exploration.

/Princess


True if income is all you care about. But.....some people enjoy exploration for the fact of possible 'discoveries'. The thrill of getting that faction/commanderspawn and opening the wreck hoping for juicy items.
That said, a well fitted AF might do the trick as well although the lack fitting capabilities the T3's offer. And yes when flying a T3 you might consider going for that extra bit of thrill, not only to find stuff, but also the possibility to be attacked when flying in low sec.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-17 12:48:00 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
highsec exploration is a joke, you are better off doing lvl 3 missions for an income.


You can make good isk exploring in hi-sec, if you are doing it right.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Astratus
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-17 14:02:09 UTC
Thanks to all for their coments. Just another quick question do i go blaster or rail?
I like the idea of drones tho I'm not sure how they will work with the new NPC AI.
Fon SaiHoc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-17 14:18:48 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
Just to put it in context. highsec exploration is a joke, you are better off doing lvl 3 missions for an income. any ship that can run a lvl 3 will probably able to do high sec exploration.

/Princess


I have ran 5/10 complexes in highsec resulting from expeditions, i can run lvl 3 mission in a cyclone, will a cyclone be able to run a 5/10 complex? Being max skilled in shiled tanking, i would say no.

Also, a note from someone who enjoys exploration and does not enjoy running missions : These two are completely different... when you run a mission its always the same, you are given the mission and you always know previously what will be your reward.
Exploration is the opposite, nothing is given, you have to find things for yourself, you never know what you will find and when you find something you never know what you will get from it.

To the author of this thread, i send you an advice regarding EVE and life in general, which you may choose to considerate or not. And the advice is this, when someone tries to convince you to not do something or not follow a path you feel inclined to or enchanted with, smile, nod, and go do whatever you had decided to do.
If a rock would speak, it would tell you not to do anything or move at all, so that you would not be more than a rock either.

o7
Fon
Talemecus Valta
Deep Space Coalition
#12 - 2013-01-17 15:00:57 UTC
Fon SaiHoc wrote:
Princess Saskia wrote:
Just to put it in context. highsec exploration is a joke, you are better off doing lvl 3 missions for an income. any ship that can run a lvl 3 will probably able to do high sec exploration.

/Princess


I have ran 5/10 complexes in highsec resulting from expeditions, i can run lvl 3 mission in a cyclone, will a cyclone be able to run a 5/10 complex? Being max skilled in shiled tanking, i would say no.

Also, a note from someone who enjoys exploration and does not enjoy running missions : These two are completely different... when you run a mission its always the same, you are given the mission and you always know previously what will be your reward.
Exploration is the opposite, nothing is given, you have to find things for yourself, you never know what you will find and when you find something you never know what you will get from it.

To the author of this thread, i send you an advice regarding EVE and life in general, which you may choose to considerate or not. And the advice is this, when someone tries to convince you to not do something or not follow a path you feel inclined to or enchanted with, smile, nod, and go do whatever you had decided to do.
If a rock would speak, it would tell you not to do anything or move at all, so that you would not be more than a rock either.

o7
Fon


Exploration is far better then mission running.

Sure you might get nothing one day and loads the next, but that's the fun in Exploration.

As for your ships, go for what you like, your the one flying it and scanning down stuff.

I fly a Vexor, but plan on getting a Myrmiddon when I have enough money, failing that, a ship with lots of slots for lots of things.

Talemecus Valta, PVP Cannon Fodder, Valta Industries.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-17 15:52:50 UTC
Proteus will work. Ishtar is better. The only thing the proteus wins is the scanning sub.
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#14 - 2013-01-17 18:36:03 UTC
The combat sites in emprie are highly competitive. Unless you like getting passed by T3s all the time, T3 is the way to go. I say T3 and not a specific T3 because any of them are suitable (I use both a tengu and proti myself, switch when i get bored of one or the other)

The isk is out there, you just have to be the first to the can Cool

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-01-18 07:29:09 UTC
Kilrayn wrote:
The isk is out there, you just have to be the first to the can Cool


Which actually is the biggest problem flying the proteus, it's not really a very fast cruiser. If you are doing exploration in a heavy populated area, the cynabal or vigilant are both good choices.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#16 - 2013-01-18 09:15:51 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Leetha Layne wrote:
Proteus works fine in High Sec.


The gun version does.
The drone version is toast, as the many frigs in a low end anom trash drones in seconds.

Not true.

I've been using drone Prot for hisec plexes and it's very far from being toast. Drones occasionally take aggro but it's nothing they can't shake off (I'm talking about Serpentis Narcotics Warehouse, with 20 or 30 frigs per room) and if you need heavy power there are sentries which can deal 600 dps at range.
LordSpock
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-01-18 09:20:15 UTC
hmskrecik wrote:
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Leetha Layne wrote:
Proteus works fine in High Sec.


The gun version does.
The drone version is toast, as the many frigs in a low end anom trash drones in seconds.

Not true.

I've been using drone Prot for hisec plexes and it's very far from being toast. Drones occasionally take aggro but it's nothing they can't shake off (I'm talking about Serpentis Narcotics Warehouse, with 20 or 30 frigs per room) and if you need heavy power there are sentries which can deal 600 dps at range.


Maybe I'm using the wrong subs, but with the drone sub I only get 75 bandwith. That is just 3 sentries you can use.
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#18 - 2013-01-18 09:24:00 UTC
LordSpock wrote:

Maybe I'm using the wrong subs, but with the drone sub I only get 75 bandwith. That is just 3 sentries you can use.

There's Augmented Capacitor for that.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#19 - 2013-01-18 09:26:57 UTC
With regards to using the drone subsystem on the proteus. Yes most pve involves using sentries. but using sentries on a proteus that needs to be close to its targets to apply damage you'd be full on special ****** to use sentries. You'd have to keep collecting them each time. Way to convinence yourself.

 ♥ 
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-18 09:34:37 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
With regards to using the drone subsystem on the proteus. Yes most pve involves using sentries


not in hi-sec.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
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