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Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#1 - 2013-01-04 14:28:23 UTC
Been reading up this at work: http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html

What implementation does EVE use for it's random number generator out of interest, or is it super-secret?

Exploration is Random. Random is Random... or is it?! http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#2 - 2013-01-08 15:37:31 UTC
I guess it's super secret! Shocked

Exploration is Random. Random is Random... or is it?! http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3 - 2013-01-08 17:05:57 UTC
You need to play Eve more to unlock the DEV levels...

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#4 - 2013-01-08 17:51:06 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
Been reading up this at work: http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html

What implementation does EVE use for it's random number generator out of interest, or is it super-secret?


if(System.currentTimeMillis() % 2 == 1) {
return true;
}
else {
return false;
}

Ok kidding, I suppose the implementation used depends on what the random number is used for. The less chance it's purpose can (or might) be exploited the easier (and thus faster for the CPU) the implementation.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-08 17:58:21 UTC
translation:

"hey CCP I'd like to try hacking the client to see if you will catch me and ban me. can you help a brother out?"

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Lexmana
#6 - 2013-01-08 17:58:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
They let hamsters roll a dice or use a pseudo random algorithm depending on what is most feasible for the task at hand.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-01-08 18:17:35 UTC
number of hamster hairs falling on the server floor compared to average.
If less than = fail
greater = success
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#8 - 2013-01-08 18:49:52 UTC
OP, you're in the wrong alliance and asking the wrong forums...
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#9 - 2013-01-15 08:57:17 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
translation:

"hey CCP I'd like to try hacking the client to see if you will catch me and ban me. can you help a brother out?"


No, it was a serious question. I am a developer who is NOT looking to hack the client. I explore in EVE and was thinking about the whole meme "Random is random" that keeps coming up in these kind of exploration threads.

Sheesh, have you nothing better to do that troll the threads?

Exploration is Random. Random is Random... or is it?! http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#10 - 2013-01-15 13:51:16 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
"hey CCP I'd like to try hacking the client to see if you will catch me and ban me. can you help a brother out?"



Mai Khumm wrote:
OP, you're in the wrong alliance and asking the wrong forums...


These two points go rather well together.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-01-15 14:00:42 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
translation:

"hey CCP I'd like to try hacking the client to see if you will catch me and ban me. can you help a brother out?"


No, it was a serious question. I am a developer who is NOT looking to hack the client. I explore in EVE and was thinking about the whole meme "Random is random" that keeps coming up in these kind of exploration threads.

Sheesh, have you nothing better to do that troll the threads?


Judging by the fact that I'm the only one you directly responded to, I'm starting to wonder how close to the mark I hit.

*tinfoil on*

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#12 - 2013-01-17 08:19:22 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Hazen Koraka wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
translation:

"hey CCP I'd like to try hacking the client to see if you will catch me and ban me. can you help a brother out?"


No, it was a serious question. I am a developer who is NOT looking to hack the client. I explore in EVE and was thinking about the whole meme "Random is random" that keeps coming up in these kind of exploration threads.

Sheesh, have you nothing better to do that troll the threads?


Judging by the fact that I'm the only one you directly responded to, I'm starting to wonder how close to the mark I hit.

*tinfoil on*


Judging by the fact you were the first troll in this thread. quod et demonstratum?

Exploration is Random. Random is Random... or is it?! http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html