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Where is the eve App CCP?

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Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#21 - 2013-01-16 15:14:35 UTC
Justin Valentine wrote:
There is no point of this app, as others have said it is better if we are forced to log into the full client, besides who knows what the devs are currently working on.

There is portable options available now including a regular old laptop or this beastly Tablet

I don't think we need an app that gives us the spreadsheet side of Eve but infact a full Android version of the client otherwise what is the point.
They would be better off makeing a whole new client for Android, I am sure the Tegra 3 would be perfectly capeable running Eve.


well i disagree and if was available you'd all use it. What games do you play that have companion apps?
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#22 - 2013-01-16 15:32:39 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
Justin Valentine wrote:
There is no point of this app, as others have said it is better if we are forced to log into the full client, besides who knows what the devs are currently working on.

There is portable options available now including a regular old laptop or this beastly Tablet

I don't think we need an app that gives us the spreadsheet side of Eve but infact a full Android version of the client otherwise what is the point.
They would be better off makeing a whole new client for Android, I am sure the Tegra 3 would be perfectly capeable running Eve.


well i disagree and if was available you'd all use it. What games do you play that have companion apps?


Well, with the Microsoft Smartglass app, almost anything has that ability now if the developers want to make content for it.

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They would be better off makeing a whole new client for Android, I am sure the Tegra 3 would be perfectly capeable running Eve.


My N7 is begging for something like this.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#23 - 2013-01-16 15:34:58 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
Did you read my post properly?
Roll Try doing the same before getting snippy.

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An app could easily have full chat as in the game, full market, full fitting, full skills and even PI could be done on the move, plus more I'm sure. Obviously the actual fly around stuff would be client only.
…aaaand thus there is no longer any chance that you get caught up in things and stay on longer to provide more content for other players. So they want you to log in. See? If you had read properly, you wouldn't have needed to repeat your question and get a repeat answer.

So instead, they will leave that to the players to create in a very limited fashion through CREST.
Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#24 - 2013-01-16 15:52:24 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Did you read my post properly?
Roll Try doing the same before getting snippy.

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An app could easily have full chat as in the game, full market, full fitting, full skills and even PI could be done on the move, plus more I'm sure. Obviously the actual fly around stuff would be client only.
…aaaand thus there is no longer any chance that you get caught up in things and stay on longer to provide more content for other players. So they want you to log in. See? If you had read properly, you wouldn't have needed to repeat your question and get a repeat answer.

So instead, they will leave that to the players to create in a very limited fashion through CREST.


I'm lost so can we get this straight (crossed wires and all that) Soooo.. if you can't log on due to being away from your client CCP and the eve community would rather you didn't log on at all?

You are contradicting yourself if I can't play on my client I can't log in at all, can't interact at all thus generate no content what's so ever and an app which lets me log in and interact a bit is worse than me not being on at all. That's what you are saying yeah? Just don't get it. If the app effected eve negatively in anyway fair enough but being able to log in more must be a good thing no?

Anyway I don't think anyone has really got what I mean and unless you have used a good official companion app, to game you are well invested in I'll be going round in circles all day.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2013-01-16 15:57:32 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
Soooo.. if you can't log on due to being away from your client CCP and the eve community would rather you didn't log on at all?
Roll No. It's very very simple: why would CCP waste time on something that lets you avoid the thing that makes their game vibrant: players being logged in?

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Anyway I don't think anyone has really got what I mean and unless you have used a good official companion app, to game you are well invested in I'll be going round in circles all day.
Everyone understands it. You're just not getting what people are telling you: that CCP isn't interested in providing one because it goes against their interest and because it would be a waste of their time since the community would do it better on its own. Therefore, they've chosen the path of enabling community projects rather than wasting time on zero-priority redundancies.
Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#26 - 2013-01-16 16:05:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Soooo.. if you can't log on due to being away from your client CCP and the eve community would rather you didn't log on at all?
Roll No. It's very very simple: why would CCP waste time on something that lets you avoid the thing that makes their game vibrant: players being logged in?

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Anyway I don't think anyone has really got what I mean and unless you have used a good official companion app, to game you are well invested in I'll be going round in circles all day.
Everyone understands it. You're just not getting what people are telling you: that CCP isn't interested in providing one because it goes against their interest and because it would be a waste of their time since the community would do it better on its own. Therefore, they've chosen the path of enabling community projects rather than wasting time on zero-priority redundancies.


I'm sorry but you don't get it.

Example everyone on battle log thinks balls to actually playing battlefield I'll just keep tweaking my loadouts and chatting with my clan?! lol no but when they CAN'T play they are still interacting with the game. That goes against what a game company is about. Hmm not sure CCP would agree with you there.

Plus cool if the community can make one.. but.... where is it? Tried em all and they just let you look at your info no interaction what so ever.

Shall we keep going nothing better to do :)
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#27 - 2013-01-16 16:10:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Did you read my post properly?
Roll Try doing the same before getting snippy.

Quote:
An app could easily have full chat as in the game, full market, full fitting, full skills and even PI could be done on the move, plus more I'm sure. Obviously the actual fly around stuff would be client only.
…aaaand thus there is no longer any chance that you get caught up in things and stay on longer to provide more content for other players. So they want you to log in. See? If you had read properly, you wouldn't have needed to repeat your question and get a repeat answer.

So instead, they will leave that to the players to create in a very limited fashion through CREST.


if I made pI, set market transactions, invention or even chatted with corp to lead them in battle,I'd be creating more content than if I'm
sitting on a bus. hippie argument to login doesn't really work.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#28 - 2013-01-16 16:11:58 UTC
have you tried aura for andoid?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#29 - 2013-01-16 16:13:34 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Did you read my post properly?
Roll Try doing the same before getting snippy.

Quote:
An app could easily have full chat as in the game, full market, full fitting, full skills and even PI could be done on the move, plus more I'm sure. Obviously the actual fly around stuff would be client only.
…aaaand thus there is no longer any chance that you get caught up in things and stay on longer to provide more content for other players. So they want you to log in. See? If you had read properly, you wouldn't have needed to repeat your question and get a repeat answer.

So instead, they will leave that to the players to create in a very limited fashion through CREST.


if I made pI, set market transactions, invention or even chatted with corp to lead them in battle,I'd be creating more content than if I'm
sitting on a bus. hippie argument to login doesn't really work.


Thats my point but people here seem to think it will be the end of people actually playing on their client or something. Oh doesn't change scare us? :)
Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#30 - 2013-01-16 16:14:59 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
have you tried aura for andoid?



Only on iOS i'm afraid does it let you actually interact? Say edit a fit and next time you're on your client that fit is there? ANy news on an iOS one?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2013-01-16 16:18:08 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
I'm sorry but you don't get it.
Yes I do, and that's your entire problem: I get what you're asking and I know what the answer to similar requests have been for the last half decade.

EVE is one of the most app-accompanied games you will find on the market — ridiculously so if you include everything people create to manage the meta-game. The reason for this — apparently counter-intuitively, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping it — is that CCP has chosen not to waste their time with the creation of any such apps. Instead, they've handed the ball over to the community, and considering the quality of the apps produced, there's pretty much no reason for them to change that policy. They have also explicitly stated that their primary concern is to have people logged in.

It really doesn't get any clearer than that.

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Plus cool if the community can make one.. but.... where is it?
CREST will start a proper roll-out during the spring, last I heard.

Muestereate wrote:
if I made pI, set market transactions, invention or even chatted with corp to lead them in battle,I'd be creating more content than if I'm sitting on a bus
Funnily enough, I've done all of that on a bus before… not that PI or invention creates any real content since there's pretty much zero player interaction.
Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#32 - 2013-01-16 16:23:36 UTC
Tippia lets agree to disagree I'm bored now. You have your opinions I have mine. Takes a lot of different people to make new eden :)

I'm outta here fly safe!!
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#33 - 2013-01-16 16:30:10 UTC
bytes in databases are content too. Since they are more permanent I would argue that stored bytes are more of what content is than streamed communication. Any logged on actions data lasts several seconds at most. from here to there and then its gone. If I make a rifter its there till its blown up which could be a long long time relative to the bytes of data that signalled the data engines to do their thing.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-01-16 16:32:29 UTC  |  Edited by: TheBlueMonkey
egh, I was just reiterating what others have already said.

I'd rather CCP focused on getting people in game and as always left meta game to the community.
Especially as they're doing such a great job.
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