EVE General Discussion

Hig Sec do not promote cooperative gameplay and do not push players to build larger, organized and compat groups because the risk factors in high sec gameplay is almost totally removed.

On the countrary null-sec gameplay promote groups, to operate there they have needs and inerest to form up larger and better organized structures. in null sec individuals have to rely and trust they corps to survive. And corps need to trust and organize their members on a larger scale and tends to develop strongers ties.

It's also the kind of activity: in a PvP group if one of your mate do a mistake can cause a loss for the whole group, in a group mining operation an individual mistake is rarely a big issue. So industrialist groups tend to be more relaxed, less "strong" and vigilant (as internal bounds and organization) and leave more room for individualism.

Not saying one thing is better than another, only are different game styles, and all legits and good; is up to the players to see what fit better for them.

But this cannot be enforced simply raising the PvE bars, can be only promoted adding risks and needs to have someoene watching your back. And I suspect High-Sec people wouldn't like this.

This man speaks the truth. EVE is not a linear progression from high to low to null. Each security level provides a different experience. I've lived in all three. I've lived in null on several occasions and found it less interesting to me than in high and low. Don't forget there is also unknown space which provides a completely different experience that null. I've lived there for awhile as well.

Using your logic the final destination is unknown space. Leave your carebear null sec alliance and go live there where the real danger is.

Human psychology and looking at other games shows that the best way to "encourage" co-op play is to force it.

Missions and other ways of making money that NEED at least one other person to actually complete for top end money would be a great idea.

I invite Gevlon to post his issue in my CSM candidacy thread, where I can reply to it (the captcha on his site hates me )

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread

I would just LOVE to see more coop industrial stuff. Right now an army of alts is superior to a corporation in any low/high-sec situation I can think about.

I have this theory that MMOs are solo games.

With lots of people.

Sort of like taking a train somewhere. Everyone does their own thing along the way, we don't all break into a forced song and dance routine for the trip.

Mainly though I think that way because most of the time, most players will be playing solo. For whatever reason.

I think one should be cautious of content that forces groups to play. WoW has their 5 member random dungeons and for me that was not the best. It was fine if things worked well. And a nightmare otherwise. Raids were only tolerable with friends.

Others may love that system. I prefer having a way to solo and a way to group content. Although I'm fine missing group content if there are other ways to obtain the items and whatnots from the group content.

WoW and EVE both have a quietness to them. Not much chat goes on at all, apart from the main trade hubs, in EVE that's Jita and Amarr at any rate, haven't been to others yet.

However EVE had a fantastic Rookie chat. I guess my time was up for that or I accidentally turned it off.

If CCP could do anything having an ongoing chat like the Rookie one would be a good way for people to plan their own little adventures with others, if they wanted to. Wouldn't take long to sort out the trustworthy from the scammers.

More activities is always a good thing.

With just as many opinions as there are posts in this thread I can confidently say that the sandbox of EVE is working as intended.

completely agree. there's 1.0 and 0.9 systems without rats for new players who can't handle them.
i would love to see more/bigger rats as the volume of an asteroid belt decreases. i'd love more isk/hour for doing no extra work.

I'll rephrase what I said.

I would not want content that forces people to play together, just content that can scale, and dynamic events. We already have Sansha occupying belts and when that happens people just move somewhere else, It's just that it's currently a bit of a joke, the so called "scout" sites, when the step between "Scout" and "Vanguard" are THREE HUNDRED TIMES the payout and requite TEN TIMES as many people to do.

Not exactly the best scaled thing I have ever seen, and I used to be annoyed by the L3 to L4 mission differences.