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Orbital Bombardment Disappointment.

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-01-15 18:32:47 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
silens vesica wrote:

Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run.


Good luck with that .
The same thing was said about WIS ,at least we have a sofa to sit on. the only real interaction in the cell
i hope there is a sofa anywhere on some High sec minded low sec FW planet

The sofa is still a sofa, and a pointless one at that - I can't even take a nap on it.
I'm not a console or FPS player, but at the very least Dust has actual live bodies playing, albeit very few.

We'll see - I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now.



Well those live bodies should be in both games not only in DUSTcrap
CCP want interaction ,then give interaction and not a cross hair on a planet only for EvE

R.S.I2014
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#22 - 2013-01-15 18:42:12 UTC
Here's the link for "Orbital Bombardment Mechanics":



http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE-DUST_514_Link_FAQ


I believe I followed every step. If there's more to it, then maybe it should say so. It doesn't differentiate which systems can only have battles. If the mercs at Marthia will never be able to participate then Marthia should be removed. It is misleading.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-01-15 18:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
CCP, could you PLEASE put EVE NPCs in DUST and give them Tanks (like a Dread Guristas M1A1) and such and let us shoot them from orbit for bounties.

You guys at ccp always say you want NPCs to act more like real players, what's more real EVE player-like than some Serpentis saying "screw spaceships, ima go play Tanks for a while"? But this way those us still in space ships can shoot them!
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#24 - 2013-01-15 18:59:44 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment",

Bahahahah! You must be new around here. "future iteration" doesn't happen in Eve. The CCP way is to produce some new shiney video, pre-nerf the implementation to point of absurdity, release it, then NEVER come back to it. Ever.

MDD
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-01-15 19:00:14 UTC
silens vesica wrote:

Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run.


Dude, I appreciate the new-car smell this whole "DUST" experiment oozes... really, I do.

But I'm an EVE player... ultimately, I don't give a rats ass about DUST.

I'm happy that FW is being used for DUST to take it's "baby steps". Fair enough, it had to happen somewhere. At least the FW guys are getting some mileage out of it.

BUT... the sooner that great features like "Orbital Bombardment" have more autonomy from DUST, then the better.

Carry on, crack a cold brew, and drop those nukes !

Twisted

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#26 - 2013-01-15 20:37:19 UTC
Ion Kirst wrote:
Here's the link for "Orbital Bombardment Mechanics":

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE-DUST_514_Link_FAQ


I believe I followed every step. If there's more to it, then maybe it should say so. It doesn't differentiate which systems can only have battles. If the mercs at Marthia will never be able to participate then Marthia should be removed. It is misleading.

-Kirst


I'll grant you that the Dust-EVE Link FAQ doesn't communicate very well what Dust does to EVE and how it all boils down; and I do hope they'll get down to writing a better version before the open beta hits.

Even the fact that there is a FAQ isn't communicated properly.
- Nullarbors Devblog "Dust 514 enters the EVE universe" doesn't mention it
- First page on the comments of said devblog doesn't mention it.
- EVE Forums-Dust 514 board doesn't have it stickied to the top
- EVE Forums-General Discussion doesn't have it stickied to the top.

Maybe CCP/ISD can help out here.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#27 - 2013-01-15 20:50:08 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ?

I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run.

Blink


True. I'm sure they'll expand on it. Just if they start small and work up it reduces the risk that the existing and strong EVE player base decimates Dust before it gets wings.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-15 20:55:48 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ?

I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run.

Blink

There is currently no connection between dust and null sec. They've openly said they haven't actually got that far yet. I think the null stuff is to come after Dust goes live. In the meantime they're focusing on FW as the primary connection, as it's the more "structured" PvP content of EVE.

I expect that, eventually, you'll be able to use orbital strikes against corporate war targets, and districts will have a significant meaning as it pertains to null; which is were I think those corpoarte war targets will be confined too.

I think that high sec will end up structured in the same way the FW is. Corps will have to schedule things in high sec first. I expect null to be the place were things open up and become more "free".

Total speculation in case anyone couldn't figure it out.
ZionShad
#29 - 2013-01-15 20:57:37 UTC
We will be looking for a lot of OB support this Sat in Gallente /Caldari FW at 11am PST. Please join "Dust OB" chat in game and will give you the planet, districts and times of battles

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RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-01-15 21:37:55 UTC
The only Orbital Bombardment I will see is when I sit on the toilet which is where Dust belongs right next to WIS.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-01-15 22:32:27 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
The only Orbital Bombardment I will see is when I sit on the toilet which is where Dust belongs right next to WIS.


Someone is bitter about the prospect of dust being interconnected with eve. I'm actually finding it rather satisfying seeing him repeatedly trying to dismiss Dust as being the failure that WiS was. It's rather unfortuante then, for Rome, that not only are they nothing alike, but Dust is actually fun. Sorry bud, you're going to be stuck with it for years on end, but enjoy your time on the joilet, jerking off to WIS.
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-01-15 23:02:19 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
The only Orbital Bombardment I will see is when I sit on the toilet which is where Dust belongs right next to WIS.


Congrats you just crossed the line from bittervet to vetbitter.
ZionShad
#33 - 2013-01-16 00:33:30 UTC
FAQ on OB's LINK

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-01-16 00:42:21 UTC
The dust bunnies were having a picnic... y u bother them? Straight

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Ckra Trald
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-01-16 01:07:50 UTC
If it pointed out everytwhere "com 2 this planit pls and hover here" its just saying for people to afk cloak there, uncloak, kill OB barge, and just fill their killboard with random kills. communicate with some dust bunnies, be friendly, and they might ask you to tag along.

http://www.rusemen.com/ Join Tengoo xd
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#36 - 2013-01-16 01:50:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Ion Kirst wrote:
Here's the link for "Orbital Bombardment Mechanics":



http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE-DUST_514_Link_FAQ


I believe I followed every step. If there's more to it, then maybe it should say so. It doesn't differentiate which systems can only have battles. If the mercs at Marthia will never be able to participate then Marthia should be removed. It is misleading.

-Kirst



I started checking, and I believe that every system listed in the "bombardment steps" are all high sec systems. So because all these systems are in high sec (.5-.9), no bombardment can be done in the districts (at this time). For cryin' out loud!

What is the point? All this hype, that is my disappointment. I know it's all new, but is this working as intended? Will this too, as many of our semi-recent improvements to the game, like FW and Incursions, become only available to groups of people (corps), and not to individual players, as myself and many others. Oh, yeah, we still can do arcs and missions. CCP do you know how many individual players you have in this game? Not everything is centered on low sec, but it seems that's what you want. Geez, how 'bout something new for us individuals? Ya think you could throw us a bone or something? Or did you already give us one?

That's enough, you guys can take it from here.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#37 - 2013-01-16 02:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
When you want to form up a fleet to go roam, do you go to a trade hub and ask in local for people to join your lowsec PVP fleet?

No.

EVE is a social game, but it is social with people you know, not a game for random PUGs. If you want to participate in the Dust bombardment, then you need to meet people who play it and work together with them.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2013-01-16 02:07:41 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?!

CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me.

*sad face*

It's a nerf to space-planet force projection. Otherwise we'd have blobs making the dust people never deploy.

As it is, apparently people in space don't like to undock sometimes...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#39 - 2013-01-16 02:43:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Kahega Amielden wrote:
When you want to form up a fleet to go roam, do you go to a trade hub and ask in local for people to join your lowsec PVP fleet?

No.

EVE is a social game, but it is social with people you know, not a game for random PUGs. If you want to participate in the Dust bombardment, then you need to meet people who play it and work together with them.



You are correct, EVE (and Dust) is a social game. That doesn't work very well for all us random PUGs. When I belonged to the Inf1dels, I loved going on the roams and ganks. It was awesome in how they worked together. But I respectfully had to withdraw from them, I could not set aside the time away from RL to play a game. Same for the FWs, and Incursions.
I can run a boring L4 mission every night, and that's about it. (besides wasting my time on these forums) . . . my comments are not delegated to you or anyone, they are only for CCP.)
I really do love this game, and I do hate that I cannot play it the way I want to. I am not alone in those feelings. I would bet that there are many, many others who also feel the same way. (they are smarter than I, as they probably don't even bother with these forums.) I guess, that CCP feels that if they can get a person to join a group, and become "social", they will continue to subscribe. . . that they will belong to something greater than themselves, and that they will feel needed. That is not the case for us PUGs, I guess I'm anti-social, and going on 5 yrs, it's how I want to play, so because of that I realize there are some things I cannot do, so again there's the disappointment in EVE.
So please, you do not have to preach to me that I need to be social, as if you're thinking you're enlightening me or something. (been there, done that.)

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Sab Sab Five
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-01-16 02:50:09 UTC
what's gonna be nuts is when they open up WIS to the dust bunnies for folks who won't undock....

behind the locked door.... FPS FPS pew pew!