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Orbital Bombardment Disappointment.

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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#1 - 2013-01-15 13:59:41 UTC
Thought this would be something new to try. I've done FW, pvp, missions, arcs, ganks, pirating, null sec, etc. (even mining)

OK. I've read all the rules and requirements to actually do the orbital bombardments. I enlist my corp into FW again. Next day I grab a Cormy, and head to Marthia. Marthia wasn't that far away. There's about 80 mercs in local. I find that Marthia V is a temperate planet, so I head there. I saw that Marthia V has 11 districts that show up, and I warp to each one. No flashes of light on the surface, so I talk to the local Mercs. They said that they not in any corp battles, there the only ones there. One said he didn't know even when he would ever need a strike, and if he did it would be a long time.

So, right now I've got a clone sitting there at Marthia, I'll check back once in a while on the dusters progress, and in the mean time I may head to another system.

Disappointment--Welcome to EVE. (I really wasn't surprised.)

Anyone else?

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#2 - 2013-01-15 14:22:20 UTC
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2013-01-15 14:29:26 UTC
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#4 - 2013-01-15 14:55:20 UTC
There is a whole galaxy of pilots that want to troll-strafe a planet - any planet.
I say let them... But give the planetary NPCs highly effective surface-to-space weapons. And lots of 'em.
Twisted

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#5 - 2013-01-15 15:41:10 UTC
whats missing (at a minimum) to make dust relevant for FW
1) clean UI to see what districts/planets are owned by whom (planet -> show info would be a start)
2) eve -> dust merc contracts (or similar mechanics like ihub ISK/lp pools) to communicate what systems are relevant

2) automatically solves the problem "where can i bombard?"

otherwise i fear it will just be perceived as random parameter of the contesting mechanic.

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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#6 - 2013-01-15 15:53:52 UTC
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.



Thanks Liner.

However, why does EVE list Marthia as one of the places that orbital bombardment can take place at?

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#7 - 2013-01-15 15:55:52 UTC
Ion Kirst wrote:


However, why does EVE list Marthia as one of the places that orbital bombardment can take place at?

-Kirst


This is actually one of the home systems for Dust mercs. Essentially were they are docked.

wumbo
Feer Truelight
#8 - 2013-01-15 16:58:48 UTC
Came in to read potential misconception of orbital bombment. Left satisfied.

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Usagi Toshiro
Null Tax Crew
#9 - 2013-01-15 17:01:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Usagi Toshiro
DUST is still in Closed Beta, to go live in a week or so. This will open the game beyond current EVE players who also have a PS3. Hopefully once it is live on the PSN, the number of mercs will increase and in a month or so the need for orbital strikes will be increases and more common.

*Obligatory "Bring the rain" comment goes here.* Cool

**EDIT** Previously said Open beta, was corrected below. Oops

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Prootje
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-15 17:06:15 UTC
Usagi Toshiro wrote:
DUST is still in Open Beta, to go live in a week or so. This will open the game beyond current EVE players who also have a PS3. Hopefully once it is live on the PSN, the number of mercs will increase and in a month or so the need for orbital strikes will be increases and more common.

*Obligatory "Bring the rain" comment goes here.* Cool


small correction; it's still in Closed Beta, going into Open Beta on the 22nd
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-01-15 17:16:06 UTC
Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it.

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Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#12 - 2013-01-15 17:21:44 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


Sounds like a good system to me. Smile

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-01-15 17:27:14 UTC
So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ?

I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run.

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-15 17:58:40 UTC
So DUST is a super HI-sec expansion in FW-lowsec,you have to have approval to shoot at planets.

R.S.I2014
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#15 - 2013-01-15 18:03:16 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ?

Would love to annihilate some legacy PI installations that are doing nothing - except blocking others' access to the resource. Not my personal sites, but for some of my corpies.

Quote:
I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run.

Blink

Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run.

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-15 18:10:20 UTC
silens vesica wrote:

Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run.


Good luck with that .
The same thing was said about WIS ,at least we have a sofa to sit on. the only real interaction in the cell
i hope there is a sofa anywhere on some High sec minded low sec FW planet

R.S.I2014
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#17 - 2013-01-15 18:10:42 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.

Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.

Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.

It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.


This man sums it up pretty well.

Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.


Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?!

CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me.

*sad face*

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Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-01-15 18:13:38 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it.


Glad you take delight in the prospect watching peoples jobs vanish and many millions of dollars go down the drain. If a game like dust where to fail that's exactly what will happen. I don't think CCP bet the farm on it, but it would mean for some lean years if it does flop.

I hope that dust does very well. It can only mean good things for eve and beyond.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2013-01-15 18:16:26 UTC
DUST would be more interesting if you had 5 Capsuleers in orbit of every planet randomly bombarding the surface for no apparent reason....

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#20 - 2013-01-15 18:24:02 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
silens vesica wrote:

Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run.


Good luck with that .
The same thing was said about WIS ,at least we have a sofa to sit on. the only real interaction in the cell
i hope there is a sofa anywhere on some High sec minded low sec FW planet

The sofa is still a sofa, and a pointless one at that - I can't even take a nap on it.
I'm not a console or FPS player, but at the very least Dust has actual live bodies playing, albeit very few.

We'll see - I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now.

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