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Hi everyone!

So, I'd like to set up a bond/investment (I'm not actually quite sure what the proper term is...) however this will be a first for me and I have a few questions before I offer an initial investment. First of all, I am relatively new to trading, however I broke 1B profit in a single day on 12-Jan for the first time. My normal return on my investments are around 5% as you can see in the redacted version of EveNexus linked below.

http://i.imgur.com/ajn1R.png

So here comes the question, why do I need investors? Long story short, because I ****** up. I accidentally bought 11 of a rather expensive item that shall remain unnamed. I can still make a profit off of these items, however they move extraordinarily slow and it has cut down my trading volume significantly. Because of this, I can offer 8B in collateral.

So here is where I need help:

Who is a good third party to use for collateral - and what would the fees be?
What would be a reasonable percentage return be for investors?
Over what period are most bonds filled, and is interest compounded?
Do people prefer rollovers into subsequent investments, or full payout and reinvestments?

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Additionally, if you would like to take the collateral off my hands directly, we can probably come to a fair price. Don't contact me if you're looking to flip the items though, if I could do it myself, I would.

Regards, Jack

If you have collateral secured with a reputable third party, you won't have to divulge anything to anyone, nobody will care.

Fees I have no idea.

Most people who do this kind of thing will likely just hold the collateral as cover for the full amount that you then pay them back with interest. You only need multiple investors if your amount is huge, you cant come to terms with the holder on an interest rate, or you want the publicity to build up for a later scam.

If you have adequate collateral, you can do whatever you want. 8b is probably within the limits of one investor. vaerah, flakeys, grendell...can;t think of anyone else trustworthy atm.

vaerah has his own thread somewhere on the first few pages....other than that, one of them should be by soon. early birds and worms, etc

I would be interested in filling this as a single investor.

For 3rd parties you could use either Grendell or VV. Alternatively you can skip the 3rd party, when you have a single investor, so that you just exchange the isk for the collateral via contract at the start and end of the loan. Either would be acceptable to me.

We would simply need to discuss the nature of the collateral and the interest rate.

nothing against VV, he might be legit, but I can only recommend to to take the standard 3rd parties when it comes to holding colletral... such as chribba, grendell, darknesss, somerset mahm or wirox. their fee`s are small enough and you simply dont risk your isk for a 50 mil fee difference.

I believe 99% of **** on MD is a scam. I trust VV. Some people are just beyond the ISK in their wallet and do this type of stuff for the fun of it.

VV, Chribba, and I seem to be the regular collateral holders in MD. I can't speak for either as far as fees go, but I personally charge variable rates depending on the loan format. Unless there is some special circumstances, the fee is generally in the 1% range.

For fully collateralized loans the norm here ranges from 1.5-5% monthly


From my personal experience, my bonds are filled almost instantly, but that's only because I keep investors deposits on hand. Interest is not compounded in my bonds and loans as far the norm on MD goes, everyone seems to use simple monthly fixed interest rates.


From the general trends in MD, that I've noticed. Most investors seem to sway towards the type of investments they can dump their isk, and not have to think about for a long time.

If you have any other questions, don't be shy to ask.

Regards,
Grendell ♥