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Boarding parties (DUST integration). A serious comprehensive proposal

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Sam Korak
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-01-15 04:10:51 UTC
It's common sense I don't really know why I have to explain it.
1. Capsuleers - The ships are repurposed for use with capsules hence they do not have airlocks allowing boarding.
2. Cloning - The reason for boarding a ship is to sack the goods from it and take slaves/hostages. Within EVE you aim not to loot, but to destroy since capsuleers have cloning technology available, so boarding a ship as fun as it might seem is pointless unless you are alone and find a singular ship in the outer space, and even then navigating in a way to make it to the (nonexistent) airlock would be impossible even if the to-be-boarded ship makes even slight effort. And as far as capsuleer is concerned he would probably selfdestruct the ship and jump to a new clone rather than give his ship away to the said boarding crew.
3. This isn't 1v1 game - As this might be a solo game at times. The pace of PvP would be ruined in anything bigger than 1v1. Waiting for the crew to gather via matchmaking, then waiting for the match to end... It would take too long, people would just shot both ships down only because it would be faster.

The idea itself as I would love to go from RTS to FPS in a XVII century game about piracy and whatnot is great, but it will just NOT work in EVE as it would ruin the game pace.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#22 - 2013-01-15 04:32:58 UTC
Ship to Ship boarding and transfer of non Eve players into a platform that might provide a limited playing field before it gets blown up.... no.

WiS / Dust players boarding ships while they are still docked and never checked by WiS haters.... absolutely.

Then allow them to sabotage or blow up said ships in a non-consensual manner.

Yes please.

Remember all you anti-console kiddies out there: Legitimate console kiddie non consensually blowing up your stuff and making you rage mechanic is legitimate.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Crimeo Khamsi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-01-15 06:14:01 UTC
Sam Korak wrote:
It's common sense I don't really know why I have to explain it.
1. Capsuleers - The ships are repurposed for use with capsules hence they do not have airlocks allowing boarding.

This is just flat out wrong. Please refer to the following official references to ships crews on capsuleer vessels:
http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=14-07-05
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Capsule

For example, quoted from official sources:
Quote:
A capital ship still requires thousands of experts to function properly, even when piloted by a capsuleer.


There's even a frickin' CHART that gives actual estimated numbers of crewmen with and without a capsuleer, for every ship class:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines


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2. Cloning - The reason for boarding a ship is to sack the goods from it and take slaves/hostages.

No... the point is to steal the damn ship. Therefore, whether or not the pilot has additional clones is irrelevant. I only care about killing THIS clone that is currently piloting the ship that I want to steal, and then running off with his boat.

As for self destruction, I mentioned it in the OP, if you go back and look.

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3. This isn't 1v1 game - As this might be a solo game at times. The pace of PvP would be ruined in anything bigger than 1v1. Waiting for the crew to gather via matchmaking, then waiting for the match to end... It would take too long, people would just shot both ships down only because it would be faster.

If you had read the OP, you would understand that there is no waiting involved. You continue to pilot your ship and shoot people and do whatever else while the DUST battle is ongoing. And the DUST players would be drawn from a waiting, ready-to-go queue at the moment of boarding.

"Asuka" wrote:
Ship to Ship boarding and transfer of non Eve players into a platform that might provide a limited playing field before it gets blown up.... no.

WiS / Dust players boarding ships while they are still docked and never checked by WiS haters.... absolutely.

Then allow them to sabotage or blow up said ships in a non-consensual manner.

Yes please.

Remember all you anti-console kiddies out there: Legitimate console kiddie non consensually blowing up your stuff and making you rage mechanic is legitimate.

That's an awesome idea. However, is DUST the type of game where stealth missions like that make much sense? I was under the impression that it was fairly rambo-esque. If it can be made to have a black-ops sort of feel to it, though, then this would be epic.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#24 - 2013-01-15 06:28:21 UTC
No, thx.

Remove standings and insurance.

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