EVE General Discussion

let them its the only thing left to say ,if you are against WIS.

A lot of reasons for WIS are given by a lot of people in the form of giving ideas and discuss about it.
The only reason not to have WIS is the emoting thing ,so pls let them feel like they have a something meaningful to add to the WIS discussion.

Yes please, suggest some more awesome minigames so I'll never ever have to alt-tab out to any of those big games that come out every few months. You know what minigames are for? They are for hipsters and their iphones.

Never talked about mini games .
Besides that, the FIS part of this game has his own minigame nowadays ,it is called shooting at a planet .

I don't own a gun or have the desire to own one, but understand that it's important for peopel to own them.

I don't drive anymore, or own a car, and I won't drive for my safety or others but I undrstand others like to.

I hate brussel sprouts, but my dad loves them; so I understand that other people like things I don't.


YOU not seeing the value in something you won't personally do is a failure on your part. If you don't understand that, then that's yet another failure on your part.

Just because I don't RP, or have any interest in it doesn't mean that I can't see the value of such tools; I'm not that narrowminded or selfish.

I don't do PvP, I've NEVER shot another player in EVE, never. I suppor the hell out of blowing up other peoples **** though.

The only thing you've done in this entire thread is try to put people down who support something you don't. You're not helping your case by being beliigent to other people.

No one, including CCP, is reading your responces and coming away with the impression that you have a point. You're just being a **** to people. You don't endear anyone to your possition when you treat people with a difference of opinion like an *******.

Or is because you know it gets frustrating, so if you keep doing it maybe people that disagee with you will just shut up?
I promise you, I won't; so why keep doing it?


WiS will not hurt your gameplay. Social enviroments will not hurt your gameplay.
It will bring more people to EVE, and that WILL improve your gameplay. Why are you so deadset against that, just because you don't want to do it.

You're doing the same thing I saw people do repeatedly whenever someone suggest to Trion to add housing to Rift. Trion didn't listen to those people, why would CCP listen to you?

Yes. And you can do FiS without ship models or textures. You could replace any ship with untextured floatting cubes of different size and would work exactly the same, more efficiently.
So why are all those stuff needed? Cause - integrated with the game mechanics - these elements make the universe credible, they give to the players the immersive feeling, the illusion to be just there, that is a must for this kind of games (and these are just the basics, is embarassing having to discuss this).

EvE already build this immersive feeling for anything related to FiS, and dis great at this. What is missed to complete the system is just the part related to the capsuleer and to WiS. And no, the visual gameplay experience is not enough alone.
The current CQ are **** because they're a cool visual experience and nothing more: they are not integrated with the game mechanics; they're integrated only with a silly item mall that has nothing to do with EvE.

So, yes, you're perfectly right when you say:



That's just what is missed and needed for WiS. And what players are asking here.

I will get affected, you bet they going to make it mandatory, :shipspinning nevafoget: remember what Zulu said? jesus jumping christ,

That sounds like paranioa though.

It doesn't HAVE to be manditory. No one should be required to exit their ship. Locking us out of ship spinning when incarna released was stupid.

That should always be an option.
I'm not forced to undock, you shouldn't be forced to exit your pod.


There's nothing wrong with taking the stance that social enviroments shouldn't be required to be utilized if you don't want to use them.

I would never do the station exploration stuff, doesn't mean I don't want them to do it, but I would definately have an issue if they told me I HAD TO.

What is wrong with putting the 5 or 6 guys, or however many it was, in Team Avatar on developming WiS beyond CQ now as aposed to year or two from now. Or letting those half dozen guys develop small feature that will eventually grow into station exploration.

A few guys working on WiS isn't going to be a detriment to the rest of the game. It'll only mean we'll see something sooner than later.

Except it WILL happen.

I'm saying stat now, not a year or two from now.

WiS is where EVE is going in the future. it's always been intended. For as long as there has been EVE, there has been the intent to move to station based enviroments.

So how much does Dust cost us Dev time ?

I am not a fan of the console crap ,but i do hope there will be some form of income out of these nonsense called Dust
I could go in every Dust thread ,responding over and over again with the same sentence ,but i wish every player who enjoys shooting at planets the best with it

And you forgot the fact that WIS could bring in more players and therefore get some more income.
But i guess that you so anti WIS that you can,t see the possibility