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Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-12 21:10:30 UTC
I resubbed after a year and I noticed my Drake isn't as tanky as it was before... After Reading the forums I saw that it was nerfed(kinda). I have full t2 everything for mission running. Has anyone had any luck soloing L4's with a t2 drake? I used to make a killing soloing l4's with my drake and salvaging with my alt(different account) in his Noctis.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-12 21:11:46 UTC
Kin Netics wrote:
I resubbed after a year and I noticed my Drake isn't as tanky as it was before... After Reading the forums I saw that it was nerfed(kinda). I have full t2 everything for mission running. Has anyone had any luck soloing L4's with a t2 drake? I used to make a killing soloing l4's with my drake and salvaging with my alt(different account) in his Noctis.


Depends on your fit. They tank lvl4s fine, the problem is the low dps.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2013-01-12 21:12:56 UTC
Umm. Drake tank hasn't changed. Missile damage is down by 10% though.
Eric Raeder
No Fee Too High
#4 - 2013-01-12 21:15:07 UTC
I am not aware of any changes that have been made to the Drake itself. Heavy missiles have been nerfed, they are now shorter ranged and do less damage. I don't know of any changes in the last year that would reduce your tank. Perhaps it seems weaker because you can't kill rats as quickly or from as far away as before the heavy missile nerf?
Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-12 21:15:53 UTC
Hmm I guess I need to l2read I thought I read that passive shield tanking was nerfed and that missile damage was buffed.
Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-12 21:17:40 UTC
Eric Raeder wrote:
I am not aware of any changes that have been made to the Drake itself. Heavy missiles have been nerfed, they are now shorter ranged and do less damage. I don't know of any changes in the last year that would reduce your tank. Perhaps it seems weaker because you can't kill rats as quickly or from as far away as before the heavy missile nerf?


Maybe that's what it is.. It is taking a long time to make kills..
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2013-01-12 21:23:46 UTC
Kin Netics wrote:
Hmm I guess I need to l2read I thought I read that passive shield tanking was nerfed and that missile damage was buffed.


That was a proposed change. It never even made the test server.

There are new changes proposed here, but nothing has hit yet.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-01-12 21:31:38 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Umm. Drake tank hasn't changed. Missile damage is down by 10% though.


10% on paper, far higher in effect. 10% is tiny. The real nerf is in exp radius and exp velocity, which didn't hit only hmls. Why they think rage torps need even bigger exp radius then they had, I'll never know...Roll
Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-12 21:54:26 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Umm. Drake tank hasn't changed. Missile damage is down by 10% though.


10% on paper, far higher in effect. 10% is tiny. The real nerf is in exp radius and exp velocity, which didn't hit only hmls. Why they think rage torps need even bigger exp radius then they had, I'll never know...Roll


Can you explain this a bit pls? I THINK get what you are saying.
Moonasha
Orcses and Goblinz
#10 - 2013-01-13 00:38:26 UTC
why not do L4s in a battleship? goes much faster when you kill battleships in 4 or 5 volleys
Flakey Foont
#11 - 2013-01-13 02:20:03 UTC
Why would you do Level 4 missions in a Drake?
Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-01-13 02:55:39 UTC
Moonasha wrote:
why not do L4s in a battleship? goes much faster when you kill battleships in 4 or 5 volleys


Cause I'm too nubish to have a battleship.
Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-13 02:55:55 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:
Why would you do Level 4 missions in a Drake?


Read above quote
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-13 04:52:48 UTC
Kin Netics wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Umm. Drake tank hasn't changed. Missile damage is down by 10% though.


10% on paper, far higher in effect. 10% is tiny. The real nerf is in exp radius and exp velocity, which didn't hit only hmls. Why they think rage torps need even bigger exp radius then they had, I'll never know...Roll


Can you explain this a bit pls? I THINK get what you are saying.


Exp radius and exp velocity = "tracking" for missiles. That's where the real nerf is at.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#15 - 2013-01-13 05:43:58 UTC
Kin Netics wrote:
I resubbed after a year and I noticed my Drake isn't as tanky as it was before... After Reading the forums I saw that it was nerfed(kinda). I have full t2 everything for mission running. Has anyone had any luck soloing L4's with a t2 drake? I used to make a killing soloing l4's with my drake and salvaging with my alt(different account) in his Noctis.

No, you didn't.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Theo Ramone
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#16 - 2013-01-13 07:04:38 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Umm. Drake tank hasn't changed. Missile damage is down by 10% though.


I suppose you could argue that does affect the ability to tank as nerfing damage extends the time to reduce the incoming dps to a point you can tank it.

While technically it doesnt affect your tank I could see it feeling like it has.
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-13 08:00:55 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Umm. Drake tank hasn't changed. Missile damage is down by 10% though.


10% on paper, far higher in effect. 10% is tiny. The real nerf is in exp radius and exp velocity, which didn't hit only hmls. Why they think rage torps need even bigger exp radius then they had, I'll never know...Roll


Can you explain this a bit pls? I THINK get what you are saying.


Exp radius and exp velocity = "tracking" for missiles. That's where the real nerf is at.


Thats wrong, torps got buffed by quite a bit (as did hams) as the skill guided missile projection now works for them aswell, meaning they hit a lot harder now and are way better vs smaller targets then before the changes!
Flakey Foont
#18 - 2013-01-14 19:28:14 UTC
Kin Netics wrote:
Moonasha wrote:
why not do L4s in a battleship? goes much faster when you kill battleships in 4 or 5 volleys


Cause I'm too nubish to have a battleship.



Then you are too noobish to do level 4s...

You will make a lot more isk doing a lot of level 3s as opposed to one level 4 an hour...