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[Proposal] Remove Skills for Plex

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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#21 - 2013-01-12 00:39:54 UTC
I think this idea has merit, but as a nice middle ground, at least a percentage of the SP should be allowed to be reallocated. Deffo not all of it, but a percentage. This would more than likely give enough people pause before going through with the process. I know I have a few skills that I would like to see go away, but I did spend time on them...that shouldn't be 100% wasted.
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#22 - 2013-01-12 01:34:50 UTC
AstraPardus wrote:
I think this idea has merit, but as a nice middle ground, at least a percentage of the SP should be allowed to be reallocated. Deffo not all of it, but a percentage. This would more than likely give enough people pause before going through with the process. I know I have a few skills that I would like to see go away, but I did spend time on them...that shouldn't be 100% wasted.


Absolutely NOT....

I would allow people to remove SP for free to be honest... but I wouldn't allow them to redistribute them!!
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#23 - 2013-01-12 11:48:07 UTC
AstraPardus wrote:
I think this idea has merit, but as a nice middle ground, at least a percentage of the SP should be allowed to be reallocated. Deffo not all of it, but a percentage. This would more than likely give enough people pause before going through with the process. I know I have a few skills that I would like to see go away, but I did spend time on them...that shouldn't be 100% wasted.


No No No No!

You made your choices now live with them.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2013-01-12 13:28:28 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Why? I just don't understand why you would remove skillpoints... let alone pay to remove SP!

These are the images that come up in my mind:
A.) Hack account, destroy pilot's skillpoint pool...... VERY harmful....
B.) Ransom pilot... and force them to remove SP to save their ship?? (This is pretty funny actually)
C.) Extremely vane aesthetics... (This is either extremely OCD and/or just stupid)

And really, any skillpoints you have are part of your character's history.... Have a PvP pilot with some indy background... so what... If you have mining III and Indy III from your early stages of playing... so what... Need an RP reason to have those skills... EASY: I know how to rollerskate... I haven't done it in 20 years.. but I still know how... I never skated regularly, but occasionally I went to kid socials at the skating ring (birthday parties, whatever). Make up a backstory that explains why you have indy 1 and mining 1.... maybe you played with mining lasers as a toddlerpod... I honestly just can't imagine how this is worthy of developer time...

I put this idea on par with:
Allow me to wiggle my finger..... I don't want to be able to do anything by wiggling my finger, and its important to note that no-one will ever see me wiggle my finger, but lets waste dev time on making it so I can wiggle my finger...

I really just don't understand this request.... and unless you can give me a decent reason, I just don't support taking dev time away from revamping sov, revamping POS's, revamping Ships, revamping WIS, revamping industry, or the 1000 papercuts that truly improve the game...



Once again, why would someone waste a Plex to re-scuplt?

A> CCP can reverse any account that is deemed to be hacked - NON ISSUE
B> You want to ransom me to remove my skillpoints, ok I will do it, but first let me dock up so I can buy a plex.
C> This one is just a plain stupid response

Once again, NONE that has posted can say that it would take more time to implement this then did the re-sculpt.

All the code for it is already in the game, just takes some tweaking.

Plus, once again, THIS is a another way for CCP to remove plex from the game (helps their bottom line)

Of course there are more important features to add or revamp, NOT saying to drop all of them for this.



Re-sculpting gives a benefit though. Making your character worse by any standard...really doesn't.
Rob Crowley
State War Academy
#25 - 2013-01-12 16:03:56 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Re-sculpting gives a benefit though. Making your character worse by any standard...really doesn't.

Would clone cost be one of those standards?
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#26 - 2013-01-12 17:09:53 UTC
This thread has officially failed at progressive discussion and compromise. :/
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Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-01-12 20:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyt Thrace
Danika Princip wrote:
Re-sculpting gives a benefit though. Making your character worse by any standard...really doesn't.



This statement really doesnt make any sense at all. It is so much nonsense, It's not worth a reply.

Let's get back on topic again, everyone re-read my original post.

Then let's please discuss its pros & cons with some thought.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-13 05:42:14 UTC
CCP learned their lesson the last time they developed content nobody wanted. They're sure as hell not going to repeat the same mistake now.

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AnJuan Jackson
Red Star Trading Corporation
#29 - 2013-01-13 09:32:15 UTC
Can't tell if trolling... or just ********. A skill you have but don't use would never hurt you. Ever.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#30 - 2013-01-13 14:59:46 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
[quote=Michael Loney]I may decide that PI is a waste of my time and decide to make my skill sheet match


> more PLEX then you could know what to do with
> a waste of time

question, are you completely insane? PI is literally money being thrown at you, put all your alts into PI, even your combat ones, and you will be drowning in the mad ISK that you rake in

but yes, i support this, mainly so i can get rid of my trading skills, why? because i only have one and i dont use the market profitably anyway

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2013-01-13 15:42:01 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
[quote=Michael Loney]I may decide that PI is a waste of my time and decide to make my skill sheet match


> more PLEX then you could know what to do with
> a waste of time

question, are you completely insane? PI is literally money being thrown at you, put all your alts into PI, even your combat ones, and you will be drowning in the mad ISK that you rake in

but yes, i support this, mainly so i can get rid of my trading skills, why? because i only have one and i dont use the market profitably anyway



Would you burn an entire plex to get rid of that one skill?
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#32 - 2013-01-14 05:06:13 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Zol Interbottom wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
[quote=Michael Loney]I may decide that PI is a waste of my time and decide to make my skill sheet match


> more PLEX then you could know what to do with
> a waste of time

question, are you completely insane? PI is literally money being thrown at you, put all your alts into PI, even your combat ones, and you will be drowning in the mad ISK that you rake in

but yes, i support this, mainly so i can get rid of my trading skills, why? because i only have one and i dont use the market profitably anyway



Would you burn an entire plex to get rid of that one skill?


Given that i am completely insane that isnt a problem

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2013-01-22 12:04:58 UTC
Ok, let's move this up again.

CCP wants to find ways to remove PLEX from game.

They did a Re-Sculp for PLEX which is a vanity item.

Let's have a Remove Skills for PLEX, another vanity item.

Why you ask, because some of us have too much isk to spend & we are OCD.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#34 - 2013-01-22 13:16:14 UTC
What a complete waste of time. Lol
Rob Crowley
State War Academy
#35 - 2013-01-22 15:03:45 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Ok, let's move this up again.
Do you expect anything more out of this thread that hasn't been said already?

Quote:
CCP wants to find ways to remove PLEX from game.
[citation needed]
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2013-01-22 15:20:55 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Ok, let's move this up again.

CCP wants to find ways to remove PLEX from game.

They did a Re-Sculp for PLEX which is a vanity item.

Let's have a Remove Skills for PLEX, another vanity item.

Why you ask, because some of us have too much isk to spend & we are OCD.



As someone else said already, lowering your clone cost isn't a vanity thing.



Making your character worse is I guess, but really, even in a perfect world where no accounts were ever hacked/borrowed/whatever, you'd STILL get people putting in petitions to get thier skills back when the next patch rolls around and fixes or buffs whatever they deleted.
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2013-01-22 16:50:48 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Ok, let's move this up again.

CCP wants to find ways to remove PLEX from game.

They did a Re-Sculp for PLEX which is a vanity item.

Let's have a Remove Skills for PLEX, another vanity item.

Why you ask, because some of us have too much isk to spend & we are OCD.



As someone else said already, lowering your clone cost isn't a vanity thing.



Making your character worse is I guess, but really, even in a perfect world where no accounts were ever hacked/borrowed/whatever, you'd STILL get people putting in petitions to get thier skills back when the next patch rolls around and fixes or buffs whatever they deleted.



I am sorry but removing the Mining lvl 2 skill & the stupid PI skills I injected, is NOT making my character worse.

AND NO MATTER what CCP buffs, I will NEVER inject these skills again :P

R.I.P. Vile Rat
gestaltt
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-01-29 13:09:54 UTC
Michael Loney wrote:
Re-sculpt is a vanity issue, I may change how I look in real life and decide to make my avatar match.

Your idea is like saying, "Gee I haven't done algebra in 5 years, I should pay a surgeon to remove that part of my brain."



As for as Isk sink, there are many better Ideas out there for it.



haha... this^
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2013-01-29 22:30:54 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Ok, let's move this up again.

CCP wants to find ways to remove PLEX from game.

They did a Re-Sculp for PLEX which is a vanity item.

Let's have a Remove Skills for PLEX, another vanity item.

Why you ask, because some of us have too much isk to spend & we are OCD.



As someone else said already, lowering your clone cost isn't a vanity thing.



Making your character worse is I guess, but really, even in a perfect world where no accounts were ever hacked/borrowed/whatever, you'd STILL get people putting in petitions to get thier skills back when the next patch rolls around and fixes or buffs whatever they deleted.



I am sorry but removing the Mining lvl 2 skill & the stupid PI skills I injected, is NOT making my character worse.

AND NO MATTER what CCP buffs, I will NEVER inject these skills again :P



And what about the guy who loses his titan and removes all the cap skills to drop his clone costs right down? or the guy who removes command ship skills, and then demands them back at the next patch?


And what's wrong with Pi anyway? It's literally free money.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-01-30 01:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
It's stupid to change the game just to accommodate one player.

Moderators, please lock thread.

Edit: Personal attack removed - ISD Suvetar

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