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best ship for recon 3/3?
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Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#21 - 2013-01-10 11:52:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
Cage Man wrote:
Ploing wrote:
i have no issues in 3/3 with this one

[Slasher, Recon]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I



Just looking at eve hq I am not sure this will make it, but you do say you use it.
The challenge is a T1 frig doesn't get a high enough HP on either the shields or armor. eg, on HQ for this fit I get 7,9 EHP, but only 2,1k on the shields, rest is in the armor and hull. I tried it on a medium asb and medium shield extender merlin and the first wave went all the way through the shields, which had a slightly higher shield HP than this. It did go 1km\s slower than the slasher, so maybe that is the trick. it could also be I am a bad pilot Oops


done recon 3/3 30+ times in it. sometimes i ended up with about 5-10 % shield but mostly around 45%. the speed makes the difference.

i use the zor implant too.
Kery Nysell
#22 - 2013-01-10 12:07:22 UTC
Uuuuh, not really "on topic", but the only thing I changed on my Navy Scorp from the 2/3 part of that mission was to add a 100mn MWD ... got to the gate before the big wave, shields didn't go below 85% ...

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goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#23 - 2013-01-10 12:13:57 UTC
Kery Nysell wrote:
Uuuuh, not really "on topic", but the only thing I changed on my Navy Scorp from the 2/3 part of that mission was to add a 100mn MWD ... got to the gate before the big wave, shields didn't go below 85% ...

BS's are easy to get through there, a T1 frigg would be a fun challenge, hope to get this mission sometime soon to see if all 3 parts can be blitzed in the same frigg.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Boudacca Sangrere
Nova Prospect Enterprises
Missile Militia
#24 - 2013-01-10 15:04:27 UTC
I have not been able to log into the game for the last two weeks, but did they change this mission recently? Because just before I I was able to run all 3 parts with my trusty Caracal (10mn MWD) and frankly, never have the shields ever dipped below 80%.


B.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-01-10 16:39:44 UTC
Boudacca Sangrere wrote:
I have not been able to log into the game for the last two weeks, but did they change this mission recently? Because just before I I was able to run all 3 parts with my trusty Caracal (10mn MWD) and frankly, never have the shields ever dipped below 80%.


B.


doing it in a mwd cruiser is not an issue, i have a nano mwd stabber for it too. the thing is, the min/maxer in me wonders if you could do them even faster in a frigate hull (3000m/s+ instead of only 1000m/s in a cruiser).

I should buy an Ishtar.
Boudacca Sangrere
Nova Prospect Enterprises
Missile Militia
#26 - 2013-01-10 17:09:19 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Boudacca Sangrere wrote:
I have not been able to log into the game for the last two weeks, but did they change this mission recently? Because just before I I was able to run all 3 parts with my trusty Caracal (10mn MWD) and frankly, never have the shields ever dipped below 80%.


B.


doing it in a mwd cruiser is not an issue, i have a nano mwd stabber for it too. the thing is, the min/maxer in me wonders if you could do them even faster in a frigate hull (3000m/s+ instead of only 1000m/s in a cruiser).



Sorry, I just saw a lot of people talking about some massive hit and frankly, I have never experienced it, hence my question if anything had changed. Will look into it once I am able to get back into the game (sadly, stuck in the hospital, yet again),


B.
Chicken Pizza
One-man Armada
#27 - 2013-01-11 04:10:19 UTC
Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-01-11 04:12:25 UTC
Chicken Pizza wrote:
Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate.

please read before posting.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Chicken Pizza
One-man Armada
#29 - 2013-01-11 06:07:12 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Chicken Pizza wrote:
Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate.

please read before posting.


I did read it, and it's a stupid discussion. Why would you even want to do it in a frigate? It's not any more exciting or engaging, and you're just wasting time trying to figure it out.

I'll tell you the same thing I told all of the noobs in World of Tanks as soon as the new physics engine was released and everybody was jumping off of cliffs for no reason: just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Waste of bandwidth.
Sammybear
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-01-11 07:37:41 UTC
Chicken Pizza wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Chicken Pizza wrote:
Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate.

please read before posting.


I did read it, and it's a stupid discussion. Why would you even want to do it in a frigate? It's not any more exciting or engaging, and you're just wasting time trying to figure it out.

I'll tell you the same thing I told all of the noobs in World of Tanks as soon as the new physics engine was released and everybody was jumping off of cliffs for no reason: just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Waste of bandwidth.


is it more of a waste than typing out a useless post calling it a waste?
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-01-11 18:48:57 UTC
Do it in a capsule! Fart clouds in space don't scare me!
stoicfaux
#32 - 2013-01-12 13:02:46 UTC
I'm one for two in a Crow. I'll have to give the slasher a try sometime.

On a side note, I'm wondering how a Mach with a MWD and a MJD would do.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Veronica Kerrigan
Surgically Constructed L Feminist
#33 - 2013-01-12 15:42:39 UTC
Standard mission sleipnir fit will be more than enough to get through. As a test I perma ran the AB while sitting still, and easily tanked all of the damage up to and including final blast, so the ship will be more than able to get through if you actually try.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#34 - 2013-01-12 17:46:21 UTC
Veronica Kerrigan wrote:
Standard mission sleipnir fit will be more than enough to get through. As a test I perma ran the AB while sitting still, and easily tanked all of the damage up to and including final blast, so the ship will be more than able to get through if you actually try.


OP was to figure out if it could be done in a T1 frig, Big smile Just a discussion of how far into min max you can go with the right fittings.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-01-13 04:01:52 UTC
I have a drake just for this mission, brick tanked with an AB. i could try it in a hawk tanked out
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#36 - 2013-01-13 18:37:08 UTC
EvEa Deva wrote:
I have a drake just for this mission, brick tanked with an AB. i could try it in a hawk tanked out


Drake with a MWD will work far better, better even infact than a drake with 100mn AB. 100mn AB takes too long to get you up to speed. em ward, lse and invuln is probably all you need.. but who does this?? caracal does it easy enough...

Sadly I have not yet got the mission again, so haven't been able to try the hookbil...
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#37 - 2013-01-13 18:46:22 UTC
and again the slasher works :)
Arec Bardwin
#38 - 2013-01-13 20:54:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Arec Bardwin
Barrogh Habalu wrote:

Regular Stabber doesn't seem to cut it, sadly.
Bollocks. I did recon 3/3 with a Stabber all the time back when I did missions. It should be even easier now with the extra mid+low.

3000 m/s without overheat:

[Stabber, Recon 3/3]
Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I
Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I
Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Grombutz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-01-13 23:29:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Grombutz
guyz, only last hit deals 2k dmg per dmg type... first hit does 500 for each so fit an invul and mwd and breeze through...
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#40 - 2013-01-14 00:08:56 UTC
wow once again for those that might read:

OP was to figure out if it could be done in a T1 frig, Just a discussion of how far into min max you can go with the right fittings.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
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