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I want to transport rigged ships in high sec.
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Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#1 - 2013-01-12 11:47:40 UTC
I want to transport rigged ships in high sec.

I know I can fit a couple of rigged ships in an Orca but the ship maintenance bay on the Orca is still too small for an Exhumer & a Noctis Cry

I’d love to be able transport a reasonable number of rigged ships from one place to another (without having to put them in contract).

About three years ago I was told, in an answer to a petition, that CCP were seriously looking into it… but still nothing…..

Does anyone else share a similar wish?
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-01-12 13:00:27 UTC
You can unlock the full feature set of EVE Online: Retribution by leaving the starter area.

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Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
#3 - 2013-01-12 14:09:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Syn Fatelyng
Instead of attempting to solo EVE Online, consider participating in the community and dropping the no-contracts limitation.

Push Interstellar Network

Red Frog Freight

Both services have high reputation for relocating goods of various quantities, for respectable pricing. This includes rigged ships.
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#4 - 2013-01-12 14:46:30 UTC
Although the two above have been pointlessly rude and crude, yes Red Frog Works but is slow and the amount of ships that can go into a contract is still small.

So yes I'd indeed say a lot of people would like this feature.

But I think it has to come with a lot of limitations, for one the inability to carry ore or minerals.

It should have a (very) small normal cargo bay.

And be able to carry lots of fitted/rigged ships. And it will have to require training and cost a fair bit of ISK.

In return it needs a tank, because ganking a ship full of ships is just too much fun of course lol
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#5 - 2013-01-12 15:34:48 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Although the two above have been pointlessly rude and crude, yes Red Frog Works but is slow and the amount of ships that can go into a contract is still small.


Nothing crude and rude about those points.

OP's logistical problems can easily be solved with available tools in the sandbox.
Contract & use a freighter for your ships if you have to. The time issue you put forward isn't very sensible, because if you are moving ships around a lot on a regular basis - you might want to consider changing your gameplan altogether.
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#6 - 2013-01-12 15:53:19 UTC
Roime wrote:
You can unlock the full feature set of EVE Online: Retribution by leaving the starter area.


I'm not sure what you mean Roime? Are you lecturing me on how to play? Or just trolling?
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#7 - 2013-01-12 16:02:13 UTC
Syn Fatelyng wrote:
Instead of attempting to solo EVE Online, consider participating in the community and dropping the no-contracts limitation.

Push Interstellar Network

Red Frog Freight

Both services have high reputation for relocating goods of various quantities, for respectable pricing. This includes rigged ships.


Of course EVE is at its best when played within an active corp. This character is one of two accounts I've paid subs on since 2007. So I'm aware of the advantage of working with others. Both these accounts have frieghter pilots so contracing myself isn't an issue. I can survive without Red Frog (I remember when they were launched and I'm glad to see they are still in business)

Can I really particiapte if I can only commit to being here 4 or 5 hours a week? For some solo play is the only option.

Thanks for your idea though Syn.
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#8 - 2013-01-12 16:12:34 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Although the two above have been pointlessly rude and crude, yes Red Frog Works but is slow and the amount of ships that can go into a contract is still small.

So yes I'd indeed say a lot of people would like this feature.

But I think it has to come with a lot of limitations, for one the inability to carry ore or minerals.

It should have a (very) small normal cargo bay.

And be able to carry lots of fitted/rigged ships. And it will have to require training and cost a fair bit of ISK.

In return it needs a tank, because ganking a ship full of ships is just too much fun of course lol


I'm glad to see I'm not alone, I didn't think I would be.

Yes, I like the idea of an inability to carry ore or minerals.

I'm thinking of somehting betwen an Orca & a freighter that can carry either:

1) An exhumer, noctis, covert-ops frigate and maybe a cruiser.

2) Battleship & noctis.
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#9 - 2013-01-12 16:20:47 UTC
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Although the two above have been pointlessly rude and crude, yes Red Frog Works but is slow and the amount of ships that can go into a contract is still small.


Nothing crude and rude about those points.

OP's logistical problems can easily be solved with available tools in the sandbox.
Contract & use a freighter for your ships if you have to. The time issue you put forward isn't very sensible, because if you are moving ships around a lot on a regular basis - you might want to consider changing your gameplan altogether.


I understand where you're coming from Liner.

But I don't really want to chnage my gameplan. I can assign my second account courier contracts and vice-verse. I think there should be more ways to transport rigged ships... thats all.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#10 - 2013-01-12 16:22:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Vilnius Zar
OP; moving around rigged ships still is a pain (probably on purpose) but it works, what you need to do is make a courier contract out of them and drop them into a Freighter, that works just fine.

And to the person stating "if you relocate often you're probably doing it wrong", many people relocate for various good reasons, one being hunting your war targets. If I find a good wardec target I'll pack all my needed gear, use my freighter to move it into position and then I declare war, and I'll have everything I need right there. There's many other valid reasons to relocate ever so often.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2013-01-12 18:40:44 UTC
Lazarus Tut wrote:
Roime wrote:
You can unlock the full feature set of EVE Online: Retribution by leaving the starter area.


I'm not sure what you mean Roime? Are you lecturing me on how to play? Or just trolling?


Lecturing? You asked a question, and the simple answer is yes, you can use a carrier to carry ships around, but that feature is disabled in the tutorial area of the game.

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#12 - 2013-01-12 19:09:27 UTC
Roime wrote:
Lazarus Tut wrote:
Roime wrote:
You can unlock the full feature set of EVE Online: Retribution by leaving the starter area.


I'm not sure what you mean Roime? Are you lecturing me on how to play? Or just trolling?


Lecturing? You asked a question, and the simple answer is yes, you can use a carrier to carry ships around, but that feature is disabled in the tutorial area of the game.




"hey guys, is there a better way to move around fitted ships cause this sucks?"

"lol roflcopter, gb2wow you fckn clown, I R teh poon"


Ok.
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#13 - 2013-01-16 18:16:22 UTC
Roime wrote:
Lazarus Tut wrote:
Roime wrote:
You can unlock the full feature set of EVE Online: Retribution by leaving the starter area.


I'm not sure what you mean Roime? Are you lecturing me on how to play? Or just trolling?


Lecturing? You asked a question, and the simple answer is yes, you can use a carrier to carry ships around, but that feature is disabled in the tutorial area of the game.



Lazarus Tut rolls his eyes

High Sec is not the "tutorial area of the game" or “starter area”.

The feature is not disabled (It's far more likely that Carriers are not permitted in High Sec because their tank/gank enables them to solo level 5 missions (so I'm told). Not because of their ability to transport rigged ships.)

I was interested to find out if there were other capsuleers who wanted a ship that could be flown in High Sec and could transport rigged ships (not using the contract system and having a bigger ship mantenence bay than the Orca).

Thanks for all the replies.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2013-01-16 18:29:17 UTC
The Orca has a sizable ship maintenance bay. It can carry multiple rigged ships around. The problem is that the ships you want to carry are too large.

Lazarus Tut wrote:

The feature is not disabled (It's far more likely that Carriers are not permitted in High Sec because their tank/gank enables them to solo level 5 missions (so I'm told). Not because of their ability to transport rigged ships.)

hahaha.

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Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-01-16 19:02:12 UTC
I agree with he OP, it would be really nice if an orca can carry a BS and a noctis.. and I could bet the gankers would support this now that an orca has lost its ability to hide what it hauls. My work around for now is to have a noctis in each of the race areas where I mission. Problem of course is still getting my hauler, orca, and mission BS to the new location.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-01-17 06:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Lazarus Tut wrote:
The feature is not disabled (It's far more likely that Carriers are not permitted in High Sec because their tank/gank enables them to solo level 5 missions (so I'm told). Not because of their ability to transport rigged ships.)

No offence man, but you should learn some more about the game.

If missions were an issue, you could just make mission gates unfitting for carriers. Then againg, there is nothing wrong with soloing L5s, some subcaps can complete much tougher PvE content solo and faster than carriers.
There is no L5 mission in hisec anymore btw.

Fianlly, Romie never said that carriers are banned from hisec because of their transport capabilities, he just said that they are.

Though I must admit that having capital transports with jump drives in CONCORD-protected space would be really broken due to many reasons.

Cage Man wrote:
My work around for now is to have a noctis in each of the race areas where I mission.

Your better workaround would be getting good missioning ship, train your security connections skill to at least 4 and blitz missions without wasting time salvaging. In average that could work better.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Evanga
DoctorOzz
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#17 - 2013-01-17 10:47:00 UTC
I too want to be able to transport 4 rigges battleships and taking with less effort as possible
Red zeon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-01-17 12:49:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Red zeon
TL;DR
but you can trransport rigged ships with freighter
(just courier contract the ship to an alt or friend and it becomes a package, then u can put em in cargo)

EDIT; guess u can transport em in a beastower if its small ships to i guess :/
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#19 - 2013-01-18 12:25:00 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Lazarus Tut wrote:
The feature is not disabled (It's far more likely that Carriers are not permitted in High Sec because their tank/gank enables them to solo level 5 missions (so I'm told). Not because of their ability to transport rigged ships.)

No offence man, but you should learn some more about the game.

If missions were an issue, you could just make mission gates unfitting for carriers. Then againg, there is nothing wrong with soloing L5s, some subcaps can complete much tougher PvE content solo and faster than carriers.
There is no L5 mission in hisec anymore btw.

Fianlly, Romie never said that carriers are banned from hisec because of their transport capabilities, he just said that they are.

Though I must admit that having capital transports with jump drives in CONCORD-protected space would be really broken due to many reasons.


No offence taken. Smile I've been paying the subs on two EVE accounts since 2007. I'm pretty up to speed how things work here.

I was using the level 5 missions as an example of how powerful carriers are, I'm aware level 5 missions were moved out of high-sec a few patches back.

I have no problem with people soloing Level 5 missions.

I didn’t say that Romie gave that reason for them not being allowed in high-sec... I was just speculating as to one of the reasons why they are.... I still don't see transporting rigged ships in high sec as a game breaker... In fact I find it quite strange why anyone would be against it.

I'm not sure if people don't read or if I didn't explain myself very well..... Probably the latter.

I don't want jump drives or carriers in high sec. A bigger "ship maintenance bay" on the Orca would suffice.

I don’t get uptight about what other people do here in EVE but I would like to be able to transport more rigged ships.
Lazarus Tut
Museum of Alien Antiquities
#20 - 2013-01-18 12:30:28 UTC
Batelle wrote:
The Orca has a sizable ship maintenance bay. It can carry multiple rigged ships around. The problem is that the ships you want to carry are too large.
hahaha.


erm... yes ....we know that Batelle...

Lazarus Tut chuckles

I'd like a bigger "ship maintenance bay" on the Orca and was wondering if anyone else would also like that or a different type of high sec transport that could carry more rigged ships.
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