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FW Domination Medal!

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SAJUK NIGARRA
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-01-12 06:38:53 UTC
Simyaldee wrote:


you guys had a substantial numbers AND logistics advantage.



Trust me, buliding trust and relationships to get a numbers advantage and then coordinating it efficienly is hard work by itself. When trying to deplex the other night we had 5 fleets of about 15 each, split in to groups of 2-3 persons/plex, then converging a fleet or two whenever we encountered resistance. Managing all those small groups and getting them together and splitting them back up again and sending them to the right place gave at least two of our FCs headakes irl.

Simyaldee wrote:


Still, taking the whole warzone is a very difficult thing to accomplish, I think everybody who is in CalMil at this point is going to stay in CalMil for the time being. Looking forward to more gf's as we try and take back our space

~Simyaldee



As I stated in the other thread, after DT today we'll be more than happy for Cal Mil to plex some of their traditional homes and move back in. We'll ofc fight in those systems for goodfites, but we won't go out of our way to prevent you taking your home systems back.
Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-01-12 06:57:38 UTC
Like a never-ending game of cops and robbers, the 'dead' hop back to their feet and jump right back in. We won this round, but the fight's still on.

Pew pew pew.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
Villore Accords
#23 - 2013-01-12 07:36:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Deacon Abox
IbanezLaney wrote:
They should get a medal if they have everything after downtime.

It is only fair.


Simyaldee wrote:
Agreed, it's only fair that the Gallente get a medal when the Caldari got a medal for doing the exact same thing, even if the mechanics are different.

Saying this was particularly hard though is somewhat disingenuous. Sure the button orbiting must have been time consuming and annoying, and harassment by Caldari Militia was probably slightly difficult to handle in certain situations, you guys had a substantial numbers AND logistics advantage.

Still, taking the whole warzone is a very difficult thing to accomplish, I think everybody who is in CalMil at this point is going to stay in CalMil for the time being. Looking forward to more gf's as we try and take back our space

~Simyaldee


Thanks guys. I know I've seen Simyaldee on the field. Thanks for being honorable in defeat, and knowing how hard both sides fought.

To the other idiot, Colt Blackhawk, that posted drivel, stop poopooing this accomplishment and try farming for your own medal if you think it was so easy, you dipshit.

This was a huge effort. As I type this it is 2:30 am my time. It's been like that for weeks. And it's been fighting, not just orbitting a button. I'm looking forward to getting more sleep.P

Cal mil corps put up huge resistance in Raka, Okka, Eha, OMS, and Lad. This war sone was not won by farmers. Farmers don't go into enemy home systems and plex. They plex backwaters. To plex enemy home systems we had to fight. The caldari know that.

As I write this, the highest percent on a Caldari plexing of a Gallente held system is 70.7. I do not think in 4 and ahalf hours that system can be plexed to vulnerable. But I will wake up and see. Congrats to all the Gallente Mil guys. We put aside a lot of internal conflict to get this done. I know I will lick my medal every day. Big smile See you all, friend and foe, tomorrow in space o7

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Vikarion
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-01-12 08:10:24 UTC
Eh, it's an accomplishment. It's not the accomplishment, like some Gal FWers would make it. The Caldari occupation of all systems took a heck of a lot of work, and yes, it was somewhat easier to plex, with cloaks and other tactics still working, but I don't buy that it somehow "didn't count". On the other hand, the Gals had a huge advantage handed to them when CCP decided to essentially freeze the warzone see-saw with them in charge with virtually no warning, which was damn strange considering the week in advance notice we get for other patches. This lead to a large part of the active Caldari militia quitting in disgust. This made things considerably easier for the Gals, but it still counts too.

Anyway, that's not something the Gal FWers at large could control, and they did have to do a lot of plexing to take the final systems - so yes, they should get a medal. You'll get it, too: CCP has a pretty obvious bias towards the "good guys" in the fight, so you should get some flattering news items, a medal, and CCP will probably have the Gallente retake Caldari Prime and kill Tibus Heth or something. Enjoy it, see if you can get a couple Chrons written as well, and I'd suggest cashing your Gal LP either fairly soon or holding onto it for the long term.
Gunship
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-01-12 08:30:39 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
If CCP gives you a medal for THIS it will be really a shame.
FW system control is 98% a PVE mechanic. Carebear plexer wonderland.
Don´t really know why you are proud for it.


Have your noob alliance and it's 60% isk efficiency come into Gallente space and we'll show you what sort of PVE we can do to you :)



Ohh I see the blob coming (that's after jumping in 5 x OGB alt's first), give me a break Roll
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#26 - 2013-01-12 09:06:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Antares 04 wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
If CCP gives you a medal for THIS it will be really a shame.
FW system control is 98% a PVE mechanic. Carebear plexer wonderland.
Don´t really know why you are proud for it.


CCP saw fit to grant a medal to the Caldari when the war-zone was 'won' by after-DT plexers and the occasional standings-exploiter, there was hardly any fighting of any mention at all. THAT was the PVE medal, for the Caldari victory over the Federation NPC ships opposing them, along with that tiny group that tried anyhow and was woefully unable to stop the tide.

This medal is going out for years of FIGHTING between the PLAYERS for an achievement earned with what FW was supposed to be: Factional Warfare. As such, it is far more deserved than the Caldari medal could ever hope to be and is a PVP medal for all intents and purposes, regardless of any Caldari whining to the contrary.

*EDIT* Oh and btw CCP, if anyone of you are reading this, don't give my toon here a medal - I have not been able to be around with any consistency for the last half a year at least and was not part of... any of the major and minor efforts to have this done :´(



Are you honestly still crying about some sort of mythical DT advantage that Caldari had? Seriously, there was never any mechanic that didn't allow Galentte to undock and counter plex back then. Hell you could even dock in any system you choose.

You guys had the same opportunity to undock after DT as Caldari did, you just didn't do it and you still cry about it to this day.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#27 - 2013-01-12 09:12:09 UTC
Gunship wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
If CCP gives you a medal for THIS it will be really a shame.
FW system control is 98% a PVE mechanic. Carebear plexer wonderland.
Don´t really know why you are proud for it.


Have your noob alliance and it's 60% isk efficiency come into Gallente space and we'll show you what sort of PVE we can do to you :)



Ohh I see the blob coming (that's after jumping in 5 x OGB alt's first), give me a break Roll



Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Says the guy that I had to scroll through six, I say again, six pages on Battleclinic to find a solo kill. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you're spouting stupid, so die in a fire maybe?
Zarnak Wulf
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
#28 - 2013-01-12 09:15:04 UTC
I'm your Huckleberry.
Cat Casidy
Did he say Jump
#29 - 2013-01-12 09:18:51 UTC
hats off to all the caldari groups we've been fighting all night n an effort to ensure we had all systems covered before dt. As usual people who weren't involved feel like cluttering up the forums, but to all you that we had to deal with tonight, GF's all around.
We'll be leaving the home systems alone after this and my hope is that those of you who adapted, fought like banshees and made our job as hard as possible are the ones who reclaim those systems and build a new stronger caldari fighting force.

GF's

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JaneBudden
Spiritus Draconis
#30 - 2013-01-12 09:30:27 UTC
Mutnin wrote:



Are you honestly still crying about some sort of mythical DT advantage that Caldari had? Seriously, there was never any mechanic that didn't allow Galentte to undock and counter plex back then. Hell you could even dock in any system you choose.

You guys had the same opportunity to undock after DT as Caldari did, you just didn't do it and you still cry about it to this day.




.... yeah since you dont get the thing with time zones and sleep times , worktimes .... we could have had 50000000000 people playing at night and your guys still would have captured all the plexes while theese guys would be not online..



well anyway good fight all the other caldaris who fought till the end and didnt ***** around
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-01-12 09:35:46 UTC
Quote:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Says the guy that I had to scroll through six, I say again, six pages on Battleclinic to find a solo kill. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you're spouting stupid, so die in a fire maybe?


Try 1vs1 in Amarr vs Minm :P
98% of all cases you get blobbed :P

And I already saw what gal militia is. We could rename it to warp core stab militia. I mean who the hell has warp core stabbers on slicers, vexors etc and runs away from a hookbill in a vexor???
Even minnies aren´t that.... erm...no words.

Really don´t see any reason for a medal.
BTW CCP you know that DUST is very much about fw and it will be a total fail with this fail version of fw?
I am really sick of all those pesky stabbed gals in amarr space. And that is probably only the beginning.
What do we see next? Legion, Loki, Tengu and Proteus boosts in ONE system???
Probably in Kamela....

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.

Cat Casidy
Did he say Jump
#32 - 2013-01-12 09:38:20 UTC
I'm ironically liking what you just said.

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Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#33 - 2013-01-12 09:51:19 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
Quote:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Says the guy that I had to scroll through six, I say again, six pages on Battleclinic to find a solo kill. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you're spouting stupid, so die in a fire maybe?


Try 1vs1 in Amarr vs Minm :P
98% of all cases you get blobbed :P

And I already saw what gal militia is. We could rename it to warp core stab militia. I mean who the hell has warp core stabbers on slicers, vexors etc and runs away from a hookbill in a vexor???
Even minnies aren´t that.... erm...no words.

Really don´t see any reason for a medal.
BTW CCP you know that DUST is very much about fw and it will be a total fail with this fail version of fw?
I am really sick of all those pesky stabbed gals in amarr space. And that is probably only the beginning.
What do we see next? Legion, Loki, Tengu and Proteus boosts in ONE system???
Probably in Kamela....


Who the hell are you fighting?!
Cat Casidy
Did he say Jump
#34 - 2013-01-12 09:55:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
Blancmanges I'm assuming.

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Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-01-12 11:17:11 UTC
Fighting: Minnie militia.
Trying to catch: F... plexers from galmilitia (never saw pvpers) what is impossible due tons of warp core stabbers.

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.

Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#36 - 2013-01-12 11:37:22 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
Quote:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Says the guy that I had to scroll through six, I say again, six pages on Battleclinic to find a solo kill. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you're spouting stupid, so die in a fire maybe?


Try 1vs1 in Amarr vs Minm :P
98% of all cases you get blobbed :P


Simple case of social darwinism. Terrible players hit up the forums to cry about how the other side don't do honourable 1v1s and it's all blobs and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

Better players set up a ship that can win 1v5 or 1v6

Try harder and the rewards shall be yours :)
ALUCARD 1208
Did he say Jump
#37 - 2013-01-12 11:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
i came outa the minnie / amarr fight just over a month ago and could always get a 1v1 wen i wanted just dont go to obv blob systems and watch intel channels on were blob is its easy...

humm stabbed gal mils must just be scrub corps cos wen u guys came over to oms the other night u saw gal mil dont run.

and as for our medal, anyone in a faction that says its easy and we dont deserve to get it please be my guest and try to recreate it for ur faction

its a war guys someones gota win at some point stop crying work together like we did and fight bk
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#38 - 2013-01-12 12:32:24 UTC
only who need a medal is DEV who worked this out.
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-01-12 13:04:44 UTC
Quote:
Simple case of social darwinism. Terrible players hit up the forums to cry about how the other side don't do honourable 1v1s and it's all blobs and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

Better players set up a ship that can win 1v5 or 1v6

Try harder and the rewards shall be yours :)


ROFL. Writes someone from THE blob Alliance. Everyone knows you guys NEVER, really never fight with same numbers but make blob only.



Quote:
only who need a medal is DEV who worked this out.


True.... really true.

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.

JT133
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-01-12 13:08:56 UTC
Just sayin' but if there's a medal I want one too.. for guarding plexes, even calling primaries and FC'ing at times, and managing all the diplomatic nightmares associated with trying to put a temp blue in place with all of the Gallente militia on the systems being focused on at the time.

And even more importantly, for fitting 120 thrashers from scratch in OMS..



Fair play to the Caldari though for the great fights they put up and valiant effort.