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LemonyLIme
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-12 01:34:16 UTC
So, I just got a good deal on a Megathron Navy Issue, and I'm looking to fit it for missions. I've read on some other threads that I gallente weapons in general suck, and that it would be better to train projectiles instead... problem is that I have large hybrid turret 5 already, and was about to spend my unspent skillpoints on specialization for either railguns or blasters. I have enough to get one of them trained to max instantly... or alternatively, I could train minmatar weapons up to whatever their battleship equivalent is, but not be able to use T2. So, I'm wondering... T2 Blasters, T2 Railguns, or T1 Projectiles?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#2 - 2013-01-12 01:37:54 UTC
Dude the Navy Mega puts out mad Deeps, and everyone knows that projectiles are overpowered. Combining the two would be like forming Voltron or something. If you do that, make sure you let me know how it works!

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
LemonyLIme
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-12 01:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: LemonyLIme
Is it actually worth giving up the Racial bonuses though? As well as having to wait like another month before I can use T2, plus having all of the hybrid training I've done go to waste?
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-12 01:52:08 UTC
Liang is being sarcastic. Also one like for Voltron reference.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
LemonyLIme
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-01-12 01:52:51 UTC
Lol, I haven't played in like 5 years, so I wouldn't know. Rails it is then?
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-01-12 01:57:27 UTC
LemonyLIme wrote:
Lol, I haven't played in like 5 years, so I wouldn't know. Rails it is then?

I would try rails, sniper fit, fit large micro jump drive, jump to 100km and let the rats chase you. 3 minutes later you can make another 100km jump if you need it.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Kate Stenton
Foundation Enterprises
#7 - 2013-01-12 01:59:30 UTC
Rails suck. But don't listen to me I'm new. They have poor tracking and even worse damage. Blasters have great damage but you spend so much time getting in range I wish I had trained capless guns, but then again who needs guns when you have drones?
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-01-12 02:01:24 UTC
Kate Stenton wrote:
Rails suck. But don't listen to me I'm new. They have poor tracking and even worse damage. Blasters have great damage but you spend so much time getting in range I wish I had trained capless guns, but then again who needs guns when you have drones?

Try large micro jump drive with your rails.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-01-12 02:01:35 UTC
LemonyLIme wrote:
Lol, I haven't played in like 5 years, so I wouldn't know. Rails it is then?

yes. but also consider training minmatar bs and getting a vindi and then training large projectiles and getting a machariel. when you fly machariel you win at internet spaceships.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#10 - 2013-01-12 02:18:26 UTC
Have a look at this, you don't need the MJD silliness. Sure it can help in very very VERY specific missions but generally clowning around trying to stay at long range is a hilarious waste of time. The whole row of bling lows is a result of the ship's massive cpu issues and can't really be avoided other than using named turrets. Note that some missions are medium to long range (where this works fine) and some are short to medium range (where you'd want a blaster fit).

Also, cap booster fits take some time to get used to but because you can fully focus slots and rigs to applied dps and tank they're much more focussed.


[Megathron Navy Issue, lvl 4 - serp]
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor Kinetic Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor Kinetic Hardener
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

100MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x4
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#11 - 2013-01-12 02:56:58 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
When you fly machariel you look like just another one of the sheeple.


Fixed that for you.

Also, medium rails suck. Small and large are pretty good at what they do.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#12 - 2013-01-12 08:50:36 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
When you fly machariel you look like just another one of the sheeple.


Fixed that for you.

Also, medium rails suck. Small and large are pretty good at what they do.


Not only that but the Mach (and Angel ships in general) will be on the chopping block once Fozzie gets to balance the faction ships.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#13 - 2013-01-12 10:49:03 UTC
Kate Stenton wrote:
Rails suck. But don't listen to me I'm new. They have poor tracking and even worse damage. Blasters have great damage but you spend so much time getting in range I wish I had trained capless guns, but then again who needs guns when you have drones?


What is this I don't even?
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-12 11:00:39 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
LemonyLIme wrote:
Lol, I haven't played in like 5 years, so I wouldn't know. Rails it is then?

yes. but also consider training minmatar bs and getting a vindi and then training large projectiles and getting a machariel. when you fly machariel you win at internet spaceships.


Vindi on one account, NM on the other. If anything enters the 100km radius, it melts :)
Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-01-17 20:10:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Darcel Black
Kate Stenton wrote:
Rails suck. But don't listen to me I'm new. They have poor tracking and even worse damage. Blasters have great damage but you spend so much time getting in range I wish I had trained capless guns, but then again who needs guns when you have drones?


I hear this a lot but honestly, I don't see it.

I run quite a lot of missions. I use t2 railguns on a Kronos. I have 11.7 mil SP in gunnery, so basically I am shooting for max damage with my railguns.

Bad tracking? Please, I can easily shoot BS's at 5km, with a single tracking computer. Oh yeah, I can easily kill cruisers at this range too. You just need to fly your ship in the same direction as the rat and they pop easily.
Bad damage? 2-4000 a volley seems alright to me. And that is just with t1 antimatter. I don't even bother with t2 ammo or faction because it's fast enough for me already.

Plus I can shoot out to 165km with Spike.

Granted, I haven't used other weapon systems as a comparison but they don't seem to be as bad as people make out.
Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-01-17 20:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Darcel Black
Sorry, I meant to edit my post and ended up quoting by accident. Don't know how to delete.
Funky Lazers
Funk Freakers
#17 - 2013-01-17 21:04:45 UTC
LemonyLIme wrote:
So, I just got a good deal on a Megathron Navy Issue, and I'm looking to fit it for missions. I've read on some other threads that I gallente weapons in general suck, and that it would be better to train projectiles instead... problem is that I have large hybrid turret 5 already, and was about to spend my unspent skillpoints on specialization for either railguns or blasters. I have enough to get one of them trained to max instantly... or alternatively, I could train minmatar weapons up to whatever their battleship equivalent is, but not be able to use T2. So, I'm wondering... T2 Blasters, T2 Railguns, or T1 Projectiles?


Just what Liang said - Projectiles are overpowered. The best weapon system atm.
Not only projectiles (ACs) don't use cap when shooting, have superior tracking and range, but also projectiles allow you to change damage type, which is critical for missions.

Whatever.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#18 - 2013-01-17 21:14:04 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
When you fly machariel you look like just another one of the sheeple.


Fixed that for you.

Also, medium rails suck. Small and large are pretty good at what they do.


Not only that but the Mach (and Angel ships in general) will be on the chopping block once Fozzie gets to balance the faction ships.

What, 2 years from now?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-18 04:44:34 UTC
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Vilnius Zar wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
When you fly machariel you look like just another one of the sheeple.


Fixed that for you.

Also, medium rails suck. Small and large are pretty good at what they do.


Not only that but the Mach (and Angel ships in general) will be on the chopping block once Fozzie gets to balance the faction ships.

What, 2 years from now?


Sounds familiar, didn't they say they were gonna do that 2 years ago?

Winmatar are the favored of CCP. They shall win 4ever.Big smile
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#20 - 2013-01-18 08:27:57 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Winmatar are the favored of CCP. They shall win 4ever.Big smile


I guess you missed whole rebalancing thingy going on since Crucible. Stop blaming ships for your failures.

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