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best ship for recon 3/3?
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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-09 21:10:04 UTC
specifically, is there a frigate hull that can make the 70km without asploding?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#2 - 2013-01-09 21:15:27 UTC
I haven't managed in a t1 frig.. managed to do it in a vengence, was close though.. T1 cruise with a mwd and some overdrives does it quick enough.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#3 - 2013-01-09 21:31:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Never tried it but HQF says this will tank 300dps for 30 seconds and go 3km/s, so thats 23 seconds to get across and 7 seconds to activate the gate.

[Vigil, recon fit]

2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
1MN Microwarpdrive I

2x Reactor Control Unit II

Will have to try it next time I get the mission. :)

I imagine some rigs will make it more capable but for 7 milion isk it would be fun to try.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#4 - 2013-01-09 21:39:49 UTC
A rigged one at 11 million isk would cross the distance in 18 seconds and tank 400 dps.

[Vigil, recon fit]

2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
1MN Microwarpdrive I

Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

3x Small Ancillary Current Router I

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#5 - 2013-01-09 21:45:45 UTC
goldiiee wrote:
A rigged one at 11 million isk would cross the distance in 18 seconds and tank 400 dps.

[Vigil, recon fit]

2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
1MN Microwarpdrive I

Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

3x Small Ancillary Current Router I


At work, so no fit tool. But it doesn't look like it will manage the 3k hit from the cloud. It may need some buffer.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#6 - 2013-01-09 22:03:49 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
goldiiee wrote:
A rigged one at 11 million isk would cross the distance in 18 seconds and tank 400 dps.

[Vigil, recon fit]

2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
1MN Microwarpdrive I

Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

3x Small Ancillary Current Router I


At work, so no fit tool. But it doesn't look like it will manage the 3k hit from the cloud. It may need some buffer.


I thought that 3k hit came at the end of the 5 waves, been awhile since i have done it and noticed. But yeah if it's in the begining then the ship would just go poof.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Sammybear
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-01-09 22:15:16 UTC
i can make recon 3/3 in a drake and never get the big wave, and it only hits ~350m/s or so.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-01-09 22:16:04 UTC
is there no way to get enough buffer on, say, a merlin?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Dzajic
#9 - 2013-01-09 22:18:53 UTC
100MN AB omnitanked dual rep Domi. Some occasional AB overheat helps to increase margin of error.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#10 - 2013-01-09 22:24:17 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
is there no way to get enough buffer on, say, a merlin?


The problem I am getting is that when you put enough buffer on it it wont tank, and there's no room left for a propulsion mod.

[Merlin, recon test]

2x Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100)
1MN Microwarpdrive I

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Power Diagnostic System II

3x Small Ancillary Current Router I

Overload it and pray:
Effective HP: 9,185 (Eve: 7,021)
Tank Ability: 245.18 DPS
Speed 3736m/s

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#11 - 2013-01-09 22:40:17 UTC
Should have seen my face when I took my pimped out Intron V in to haul some roids outCry, I'd go with a destroyer hull.
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#12 - 2013-01-09 22:48:53 UTC
i have no issues in 3/3 with this one

[Slasher, Recon]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-01-09 22:59:21 UTC
this looks promising; i'll try it next time

I should buy an Ishtar.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-10 00:34:27 UTC
My go-to for Recon 3/3 was always a dual-medium-armor-rep Myrmidon with a MWD. It's got the speed and the tank to get through the danger zone quickly without too much damage - it might even be able to handle the entire run with a single MAR.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#15 - 2013-01-10 00:37:12 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
My go-to for Recon 3/3 was always a dual-medium-armor-rep Myrmidon with a MWD. It's got the speed and the tank to get through the danger zone quickly without too much damage - it might even be able to handle the entire run with a single MAR.


You might have missed it, we were thinking of T1 friggates that could make it through.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Archa4 Badasaz
Vangazhi
#16 - 2013-01-10 02:09:28 UTC
Long time ago I read, the Stabber Fleet Issue was the best option. With a 100MN Microwarpdrive. Something like this:
[Stabber Fleet Issue, 1]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-01-10 04:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Looks nice.
Probably it can somehow run entire mini-arc.
Regular Stabber doesn't seem to cut it, sadly.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#18 - 2013-01-10 08:01:39 UTC
Ploing wrote:
i have no issues in 3/3 with this one

[Slasher, Recon]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I



Just looking at eve hq I am not sure this will make it, but you do say you use it.
The challenge is a T1 frig doesn't get a high enough HP on either the shields or armor. eg, on HQ for this fit I get 7,9 EHP, but only 2,1k on the shields, rest is in the armor and hull. I tried it on a medium asb and medium shield extender merlin and the first wave went all the way through the shields, which had a slightly higher shield HP than this. It did go 1km\s slower than the slasher, so maybe that is the trick. it could also be I am a bad pilot Oops
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#19 - 2013-01-10 08:18:23 UTC
dual prop Brick tank SFI
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#20 - 2013-01-10 08:42:56 UTC
OK, eve is down for the dust integration.. so I am bored.. I recon a hookbil can do it...

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, recon]


Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction_2
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction_2
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I_2
EM Ward Field II_2
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster_2, Cap Booster 50

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II_2
Capacitor Flux Coil II_2

Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I_2
Small Ancillary Current Router I_2
Small Ancillary Current Router I_2


Cap stable, 3 km\s
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