EVE General Discussion

I neither mine nor gank, so this would not buff or nerf me either way. Your reaction though seems to indicate you are a tad miffed about the buff mining ships got. Frankly, after thinking ever so briefly about this, I would like to know from someone who does mine, and from someone who does bump the following:

Can a bumper prevent a NON afk miner from mining? HOW many would it take if one cannot?

IF a NON afk miner can continue to mine - then no problem with bumping. Keep and allow as is.

IF a NON afk miner is clearly prevented from mining - then implement a function that will flag the bumper for the agression which he clearly perpetrates The idea about module interruption is just one, I am sure there are others. Collission damage etc. will not work due to bottlenecks like Station undock etc.


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Now you are just getting silly.

You made the claim.

Eve is a game. This is not the real world. Just because you are so disconnected from reality that you think harassment in the true sense of the word is ONLY defined by a game company doesn't mean others will feed into your delusion.

You and others like you are so disconnected from the real world that I believe you need to have a time out

And this you see is the genius of the charge for a permit. Fact of the matter is the code, and the fee turns this from a simple attempt to be annoying to a valid tactic for emergent gameplay in the sandbox.

Only the saviour of hisec could have thought of such brilliance!


On a more serious note, anyone who is anti miner bumping is also anti tackle/covops/cap bumping, anyone who is anti these highly valid methods of controlling hostiles in a fleet/small gang/solo pvp environment is at best a bit strange in the head at worst (insert ISD removeable commentry here)

The fact of the matter is that CCP would have to put new ruling in to seperate miners from other eve players, and thats just dumb. Not trying to be offensive here but really use the whole book not just the first two pages eh?

Other "effective" methods to give the miners a chance thats fine. As I've said before the New order would probably welcome the challenge, at least they're at the keyboard to try. And failing that they always have the Knight s of the New order to fall back on.

Again, repeat after me "They charge therefore it's legit"

And once again I am not part of the new order, but I do however fully and utterly approve their right to develop content for this game after their own fashion.

In any other PvP game a "bumper" would be regarded as some hybrid between human failure and a psycho.
In EvE it's sanctioned game play though. EvE indeed attracts a special kind of players.

You started off well, but then you misunderstood me.

What harassment means in the real world applies in the real world.

What harassment means according to CCP applies in EVE.

No overlap.

The subject of "bumping in Eve" and "charging rent in Monopoly" are not even in the same relm in regard to gameplay.

Bumping in non-combat situations is an emergent form of harassment allowed by loose gampley rules.
Charging rent is on the other hand, is a clearly written mechanic of gameplay.

One is allowed by loose rules, the other is a specific game mechanic. Trying to equate the two is simply, silly.

Bumping is a specific game mechanic. CCP specifically included collisions as a game mechanic. Some space games do not have collision detection at all.

Both are quite specific game mechanics. But people playing monopoly understand that they're playing with other people who might sometimes cause them in-game inconvenience. People complaining about bumping do not seem to understand that.

But mining ore requires slightly more attention than ice mining, which only requires less than a minute of attention every hour. This is too much for AFKers.