Science & Industry

1) If you have max orca alt like you mentioned than you don't need corp mining ops

2) if you have standings of 6.0 with any npc corp you dont need someone to refine for you and if you have trading skills you better of just selling it yourself.

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Why you sell to your corp if you have one.

> Main reason: You don't have to haul so you can make more isk by ever breaking your mining cycle

> Second reason: You become an asset and build long term relationship

p.s:the corp prices will never gouge the miner you might take a mild hit to profite but you'll make more in the long term cause you havent wasted time hauling or getting market taxed

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Why you join a corp

If the corp is offering bonus you can turn your orca pilot into a second mining barge/exhumer pilot for even more profit cause you dont need him to be a dedicated boost alt any more

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Why you suffer no risk in high sec

I saw you mentioned you were risking your ship and clone by mining in high sec

This is a lie

>if your cold aligned and you see a ship warp into the belt andstart approching you you have more than enough time to gtfo out of dodge.
>War targets show up in local so you know when to runand hide etc..etc..

If your active your risking nothing. How ever the corp hauler who could carrying valuables of a few billion isk ismore likely to get ganked on the way to trade hubs if he is also not careful.

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Join a random 0.0 corp

access to ABC means your mining per hour should go up to like 50 in the low and 90 at the highest

cons:Logistics is a nightmare so your better of selling to corp but profit is alot better in null than high

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In the end:

You can make a living as a miner if you really like your corp so find some people you like and join up with them which allows you to be more versatile with your alt

If your interested in maxing out your yield solo you need to invest more isk in implants, and need to invest more of your time.

p.s:If your mining veld none stop for 10hrs a day you should be able to plex your account no matter what your doing.

p.s.s:don't try to hard this is a game after all just try to have fun if your having fun your doing it right.

Lel, don't apologize for being a miner. In the end EVE is a game and if mining is fun for you then do it.

That miner/hauler hating by "industrialists" is so pathetic. Those people spend elaborate effort (spread sheets) to earn enough ISK to not have to buy gametime codes and then hate on others who are not as "efficient" as they are.

Fun fact: If you were all about efficience you would go and make IRL some money (lol, $20/acc/month is a huge sum if you're living from unemployment checks?) to buy plexes.

tl;dr - hating "industrialists" are pathetic because they can't earn $20 IRL to pay for their account :3

also I read quite a few industialist blogs and all those folks have a job irl ... how pathetic is that? slaving away for someone else and then playing your dream of independence in a mmo game. lel lel.

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sent from my expensive $device that I can afford because I run a successful business IRL and can afford to burn through a few hundred plexes.

Doing mining in Eve "for a living" is like-- for example--- being a career secretary. You type, you file, and that's it. Avoid learning new skills, avoid responsibility that could lead to consequences if you screw up, keep your head down, be a good slave. Yoiu grow old, hopefully have a nice 401k (in the West) or pension (in the East) to keep you in cat food in your later days, and die content. Not happy, but content.

I'm surrounded by people like this all day, and it revolts me. They choose that life, and think they have it good, while their brains rot from the inside out. They'll never know climbing a peak in winter just because it's there, they'll never know the thrill of coming around a corner to a startled black bear, and they'll never know the thrill of creating something awesome.

If you think that's all you deserve--- not ARE ENTITLED TO, but deserve--- then have at it. I'll be the one trying new stuff, succeeding or failing BUT TRYING, making money, having fun, and basically living by my own rules.

Enjoy your life, slave, until you realize you're bored silly and move on to the next money suck to make you think you're still alive.

Why not join a corp mining op? Join a corp mining op and give them 5% of your yield and in exchange you get a 2nd miner (your orca pilot) to increase your yield by nearly x2 what you would get mining. You also don't need to haul, refine, grind standings, haul to station, etc.

Manufacturing, hauling and trading all go well with mining. Bluepriint research, copying and invention are more possibilities, especially if you do go into manufacturing.

With the proper skills, all but the hauling can be done at the same time you are mining, and all can be relaxing in their own way.

What to Do in EVE Online is worth looking at:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

For more exotic occupations, look through some of the services offered in the Sell Orders section of this forum, or even the Crime & Punishment section.

Dedicated miners are welcome in most corporations/alliances, especially if you are willing to fly combat ships when your corporation is at war. Even PvP-focused corps often have a mining/industrial branch to help keep them supplied with ships and ammo.

The exact membership requirements of different corporations vary wildly from anythiing-goes to virtual slavery, so I suggest you look through the threads posted in the Alliance & Corportation Recruitment Center for a corp that suits you best.

Be sure you are clear about exactly what a recruiting corporation demands of you and offers you, before you join.

My criticism is of the miners who spend all of their energy trying to break the game and remove what makes it special. The ones who believe they're entitled to a safe space in which to mine and to be able to affect the game world without any risk to themselves.

If you want to stare at a rock all day, and you understand the fact that you're not in a safe space, I've got no problem with you.

Were you around during HAG?

Have you seen the threads they make about their ships being bumped?

No, the taxes you get from selling things on the market don't go anywhere. It's just an ISK sink.

You can also reduce them with some of the trade skills.

Standings affect taxes too? I was under the impression it only affected broker fees. (Well and refining and some other stuff, but not taxes).

Disregarding all the answers above which derailed the thread.

Mining in well skilled unboosted Mackinaw you can make ~20mil/hour (Scordite, currently the most profitable ore). So in a month at 10hours per day you should be making 6 bil ISK. Sub your Orca account, put it in Mackinaw as well, and make it 12bil/month. Orca boosts start paying off only for 3+ man operations. That's more than plenty for PLEXing two accounts plus freighter or two.

Regarding industrial corporation, no clue, I guess there should be similar minded ones around.