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Null is Broken, Hisec working as intended.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#501 - 2013-01-05 20:36:38 UTC
Jamyl Khanid wrote:
I went to Null and it was full of Scrubs Shocked


Much like when you look into a mirror.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#502 - 2013-01-05 20:38:38 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Hi-sec isn't meant to be the place where you can be the richest!



Well, 2 sides to that.

1)stop spending so much in null.


unfortunately, the manufacture of everything we need to buy is heavily subsidised in hi-sec. These subsidies mean that local industry is unable to compete - especially in addition to the many other unfair restrictions placed on 0.0 industry which would prevent us from building enough of what we needed. Even if hi-sec were to be deleted tonight, there simply isn't the manufacturing capacity in nullsec. It's just not there. This is an important point that has been explained to you ten or twelve times already.


You can't fly ISK into a fight...



All those 50bil and 67bil ships are arguing with you.

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Jamyl Khanid
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#503 - 2013-01-05 20:41:57 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Jamyl Khanid wrote:
I went to Null and it was full of Scrubs Shocked


Much like when you look into a mirror.


The mirror in my CQ told me I was fairest of them all. Mirror don't like bich
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#504 - 2013-01-05 20:44:42 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
All those 50bil and 67bil ships are arguing with you.

You mean the only thing you can't build anywhere else except in sov space?

Gee, I wonder why those are built in sov space. Roll

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#505 - 2013-01-05 20:45:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Lord Zim wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
All those 50bil and 67bil ships are arguing with you.

You mean the only thing you can't build anywhere else except in sov space?

Gee, I wonder why those are built in sov space. Roll



Yea strange isnt it. Damn that highsec for having everything. Because miners can afford everything~!

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#506 - 2013-01-05 20:50:24 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
All those 50bil and 67bil ships are arguing with you.

You mean the only thing you can't build anywhere else except in sov space?

Gee, I wonder why those are built in sov space. Roll



Yea strange isnt it. Damn that highsec for having everything. Because miners can afford everything~!


You're a living example of the quote

"It's difficult to make a man understand something when his living depends on not understanding it"

Don't worry, you'll understand soon enough.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#507 - 2013-01-05 20:55:15 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
All those 50bil and 67bil ships are arguing with you.

You mean the only thing you can't build anywhere else except in sov space?

Gee, I wonder why those are built in sov space. Roll



Yea strange isnt it. Damn that highsec for having everything. Because miners can afford everything~!


You're a living example of the quote

"It's difficult to make a man understand something when his living depends on not understanding it"

Don't worry, you'll understand soon enough.



I don't think you understand.

Let me say it again in case you missed it the first time.

I don't live in highsec. Or is that your point? Now you are just being confusing. Do you even play eve or just forum warrior? Too much pvp, not enough industry in your posts.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#508 - 2013-01-05 20:56:24 UTC
I heard you say it. I just think you're lying, either by omission or simply by not telling the truth.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#509 - 2013-01-05 21:23:21 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
I heard you say it. I just think you're lying, either by omission or simply by not telling the truth.



I guess it's up to you to prove me wrong then.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#510 - 2013-01-05 21:24:55 UTC
proving a negative is impossible
proving a positive, with the use of killboards, is simple
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#511 - 2013-01-05 21:27:44 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
proving a negative is impossible
proving a positive, with the use of killboards, is simple



I don't get what you mean, but it isn't hard to track people.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#512 - 2013-01-05 21:31:41 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I heard you say it. I just think you're lying, either by omission or simply by not telling the truth.



I guess it's up to you to prove me wrong then.



Oh now you want people to back up their own assertions?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#513 - 2013-01-05 21:35:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Malcanis wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I heard you say it. I just think you're lying, either by omission or simply by not telling the truth.



I guess it's up to you to prove me wrong then.



Oh now you want people to back up their own assertions?



Well, you've been advocating it so far. Who's side do you want to take? I'm either telling the truth and you're wrong, or you're right and I'm lying about being in null.

Not my fault you can't trust anything.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#514 - 2013-01-05 21:45:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Malcanis wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Open VFK to the richest players?

What's in it for us?


The privilige of seeing people you promise not to shoot making money in your space!


Ever seen what happens to say UK and NY for the pure fact they are most welcoming to markets and investors?
Ever thought what kind of profit would yield a "new Jita" to the station owners if they could cash in the broker fees? Technetium would be dismissed as a mere waste of time.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#515 - 2013-01-05 22:03:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
difference being UK and NY don't operate in a different dimension where physical laws which prevent any building over 2 stories from being built or the industrial revolution from ever happening

a better example would be say in the wild west where the eastern states sent wave after wave of violent gold prospectors to forming rough and tumble mining towns that would later develop into cities. Except the city thing never happened due to the 'alternate physics'' thing so the gold-mining militias just continued living in shacks while loading their saddlebags with gold and coming back with eastern-manufactured guns to secure more land claims/kill all outsiders . Eventually the gold militias ditched the horses and saddlebag options and developed very efficient railroads that made gold export/weapon import hella efficient.

Soon the gold economy crashed due to this oversupply, but conveniently oil was discovered in the west and the gold economy could be phased out over some of gold militias becoming oil barons and others becoming feudal lords charging for access to their gold mines in order to compete with the oil barons. Another development was flight technology, which made oil/gold delivery to the east and weapon delivery to the west even more trivial. Another good use of airplanes was using it to patrol the wastes for any Easterners who thought it wise to build some themselves some picks and go out 'looking for gold' and then eject a tactical parachuter team right on top of their old-tymey mining camp.

The eastern prospector bleeding out and gasping "i could invest... into building more shaaaccckkksss..." is you
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#516 - 2013-01-05 22:33:24 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I heard you say it. I just think you're lying, either by omission or simply by not telling the truth.



I guess it's up to you to prove me wrong then.



Oh now you want people to back up their own assertions?



Well, you've been advocating it so far. Who's side do you want to take? I'm either telling the truth and you're wrong, or you're right and I'm lying about being in null.

Not my fault you can't trust anything.


My evidence is that your arguments don't match the reality of 0.0 as it actually is. If you're not lying then you're either personally hostile to the idea of non-combat activity taking place in 0.0, or your experience of it is extremely limited and deerives mainly from reading the General Discussion hi-sec crew talking points.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#517 - 2013-01-05 22:35:41 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
My evidence is that your arguments don't match the reality of 0.0 as it actually is. If you're not lying then you're either personally hostile to the idea of non-combat activity taking place in 0.0, or your experience of it is extremely limited and deerives mainly from reading the General Discussion hi-sec crew talking points.

At quick glance, most of that char's losses and kills are in lowsec, a few losses in hisec and some in delve, and he was first sighted in august 2012.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat