These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

NBSI Nullsec = Fail

First post
Author
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#141 - 2013-01-04 23:42:58 UTC
Still waiting on some figures on how much null wants to see high sec 'balanced'. If the usual suspects are so fast to point and scream that something is not balanced, why don't you specify how it can be. Give us some figures.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2013-01-04 23:51:36 UTC
Is Marlona talking about nullsec like it's a person or something?
Jamyl Khanid
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#143 - 2013-01-05 00:09:34 UTC
NBSI is an everyone blue train
NRDS is an everyone red train

The opposite of the opposite Shocked
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#144 - 2013-01-05 00:11:23 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Citing providence as some kind of successful proof that NRDS is a good thing is kinda dumb. CVA holds providence because it's worthless space. Much the same reason IRC has managed to hold onto it's space for so long. '

-Liang


I thought it was common knowledge that we keep IRC and CVA around for farming killmails.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2013-01-05 00:17:00 UTC
or like why HBC keeps FA around
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#146 - 2013-01-05 00:28:31 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Still waiting on some figures on how much null wants to see high sec 'balanced'. If the usual suspects are so fast to point and scream that something is not balanced, why don't you specify how it can be. Give us some figures.

We haven't said so because that's obviously for CCP to determine. But if you're suggesting that highsec IS balanced after all you've got a bit of explaining to do.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#147 - 2013-01-05 00:29:52 UTC
Jamyl Khanid wrote:
NBSI is an everyone blue train
NRDS is an everyone red train

The opposite of the opposite Shocked

At least NBSI standings lists don't get so large that the alliances have to start telling members to put people on their personal standings lists because alliance and corporation standings have ballooned to their maximum limits.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2013-01-05 00:44:33 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Still waiting on some figures on how much null wants to see high sec 'balanced'. If the usual suspects are so fast to point and scream that something is not balanced, why don't you specify how it can be. Give us some figures.

I see you've decided to forget the figures from the last time you've been shown them. That figures. Roll

This sums it up, though: http://themittani.com/features/its-time-nerf-highsec

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#149 - 2013-01-05 00:54:07 UTC
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
So the case was made for NRDS.

People rushed in making the case for NBSI.


NRDS is a failure, say those who shoot anything that is not blue.


So, how's that empty and boring nullsec working out for ya?



Fine as everyone that actually lives in null knows its not empty.




I live there for months at a time. It's empty. Yeah, that's right, I trespass until my hold is full of phatloot.

Nobody except an occasional ratter in a carrier, or some mercs on the move. Once went three weeks without seeing another ship.

NPC nullsec tends to have more traffic.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#150 - 2013-01-05 01:06:21 UTC
I can't tell if people are actually upset that most nullsec alliances do not have NRDS policies. What kind of adorable little child are you all pretending to be?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#151 - 2013-01-05 01:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I live there for months at a time. It's empty. Yeah, that's right, I trespass until my hold is full of phatloot.

Nobody except an occasional ratter in a carrier, or some mercs on the move. Once went three weeks without seeing another ship.

NPC nullsec tends to have more traffic.

See, even Herzog here managed to eke out an existence in nullsec, as some sort of vermin feeding off the detritus and waste of nullsec civilizations. Drinking deep from the proverbial 0.0 ditchwater in silence, scurrying into a hideyhole at the slightest provocation, Herzog's life is a sad, solitary one of fear and alienation. But it proves the tenacity and adaptability of the capsuleer animal, where a creature can survive, even thrive, within the sewers of Esoteria.

Just one of many wonders... of our nullsec ecosystem.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2013-01-05 01:43:04 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
See, even Herzog here managed to eke out an existence in nullsec, as some sort of vermin feeding off the detritus and waste of nullsec civilizations. Drinking deep from the proverbial 0.0 ditchwater in silence, scurrying into a hideyhole at the slightest provocation, Herzog's life is a sad, solitary one of fear and alienation. But it proves the tenacity and adaptability of the capsuleer animal, where a creature can survive, even thrive, within the sewers of Esoteria.

Just one of many wonders... of our nullsec ecosystem.

I read this in the voice of David Attenborough too. What?

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#153 - 2013-01-05 01:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
not even a nullbear, but some sort of nullgerbil
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#154 - 2013-01-05 02:08:33 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
So the case was made for NRDS.

People rushed in making the case for NBSI.


NRDS is a failure, say those who shoot anything that is not blue.


So, how's that empty and boring nullsec working out for ya?



Fine as everyone that actually lives in null knows its not empty.




I live there for months at a time. It's empty. Yeah, that's right, I trespass until my hold is full of phatloot.

Nobody except an occasional ratter in a carrier, or some mercs on the move. Once went three weeks without seeing another ship.

NPC nullsec tends to have more traffic.

Sounds like Oasa.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

foxnod
Perkone
Caldari State
#155 - 2013-01-05 02:24:01 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I live there for months at a time. It's empty. Yeah, that's right, I trespass until my hold is full of phatloot.

Nobody except an occasional ratter in a carrier, or some mercs on the move. Once went three weeks without seeing another ship.

NPC nullsec tends to have more traffic.

See, even Herzog here managed to eke out an existence in nullsec, as some sort of vermin feeding off the detritus and waste of nullsec civilizations. Drinking deep from the proverbial 0.0 ditchwater in silence, scurrying into a hideyhole at the slightest provocation, Herzog's life is a sad, solitary one of fear and alienation. But it proves the tenacity and adaptability of the capsuleer animal, where a creature can survive, even thrive, within the sewers of Esoteria.

Just one of many wonders... of our nullsec ecosystem.



I choked on my beer when i read this.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#156 - 2013-01-05 03:35:32 UTC
foxnod wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I live there for months at a time. It's empty. Yeah, that's right, I trespass until my hold is full of phatloot.

Nobody except an occasional ratter in a carrier, or some mercs on the move. Once went three weeks without seeing another ship.

NPC nullsec tends to have more traffic.

See, even Herzog here managed to eke out an existence in nullsec, as some sort of vermin feeding off the detritus and waste of nullsec civilizations. Drinking deep from the proverbial 0.0 ditchwater in silence, scurrying into a hideyhole at the slightest provocation, Herzog's life is a sad, solitary one of fear and alienation. But it proves the tenacity and adaptability of the capsuleer animal, where a creature can survive, even thrive, within the sewers of Esoteria.

Just one of many wonders... of our nullsec ecosystem.

I choked on my beer when i read this.

That is rather ... impressive.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Spacing Cowboy
Perkone
Caldari State
#157 - 2013-01-05 05:54:47 UTC
See NBSI as a house allarm system sign.

If you come on my turf i will shoot you in the face ( or go to my hideout bunker until you leave )

NRDS is walking around in a bad city with a pocket full of cash, and just hoping nobody notice to use you as a pinjata.

I / we worked hard for the space, kicked out the old inhabitants at sometimes great cost. We setup a infrastructure , maintain it , and pay the bills for it.
Why should we allow in scrubs/freeloaders who are only there to reap the reward or compete for resources.
While, doing nothing to suport it exept post a risk that you try to murder my shiny or not so shiny spaceboat.

CVA is also needed in this game, and also the roleplayers need a spot to do there thing.
Nothing bad with it, but that does not mean entire 0.0 should addopt the style. It would be becomming a next highsec without concord and with hictors. Very boring.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#158 - 2013-01-05 06:40:10 UTC
It appears that I have been zinged.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2013-01-05 08:11:04 UTC
To make a NRDS area work i think would need a few changes to null

make systems taxable like 20% system wide tax on bountys
make sub sov so you first av allince sov then sov gets desagnated to a corp sov assigned by alliance holding corp to help with maintanance of systems if said corp leaves sov gos bck to defalt alliance holding corp

upgrade of stations and pos also more slots and better refine

npc toons would be nbsi

You have to make it profitable for the owning alliance otherwise they will just rent out space

so say your alliance owns two regions you make home region a no go area the second region you convert to nrds

With system wide tax the more ppl there the better for the owners
taxing ore is and allways been bit of a pain in eve
also all isk from station services should go to sov holding corp of that system and even market tax this way the corp that ownes the system can pay its members for actualy policeing that system and again the more activaty the more profits

A place like this would be prime hunting grounds but thats eve everywere is a hunting ground

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#160 - 2013-01-05 08:26:43 UTC
Spacing Cowboy wrote:

Why should we allow in scrubs/freeloaders who are only there to reap the reward or compete for resources.


My country's democrats have done this. Let's say that it did not end well...