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CCP kicked a plenty of BOTS last night. Is it true?

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Polly Oxford
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-01-02 21:25:04 UTC
Hey, stop ruining the fun. I was waiting for Krixtal to come and call it our bot farm :(
Medea Dested
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2013-01-02 21:25:29 UTC
How about we work on anti-botting measures on the REFINING side, and not on the mining side?
Here's what I'm thinking:
1) When you get back to the starbase with your raw asteroid ore, you have a choice:
a) play a mini-game where you can find better ore than you expected in all that slag if you do it right.
b) opt for an automated process with no such benefits that will take time
2) The automated process would go through a number of refining slots on any starbase, with a limited amount of ore such a slot could take per some unit of time (up to X m^3).

Then it doesn't matter how many bots you run, because one person or one station will never be able to process that much ore to make it useful.

1) It's more realistic - in RL, refining is not instantaneous - it requires a boat-load of energy to melt down the slag, and extract what you need.
2) Should be more fun, depending on the minigame.
3) It will add value to processed ore through the somewhat manual process of refining (or the inherent value of slots)
4) If it's a legit corp, or a small miner, people in the corp will actually get to use their refining skill. (right now, only one person needs it in the entire corp).
5) If it's a botter, there will be a limit to the number of auto-refining slots, rendering a lot of their fleet unusable, and the minigame should be too complex for the bot to play it.
Soook Yu
EQUALlTY
#83 - 2013-01-02 21:26:17 UTC
leoplusma wrote:

last night, home system infested by 40 retrievers
their pilot names were : "Replicant_****_01"
all way to "Replicant_****_40". they were behaving
in mining the ice belt like... bots. lol.

petitioned it. i guess many of us did.
no response yet.

today i realise that those users dont even exist
anymore in eve database! along with them, some
other Replicants too (i think Replicant Dew or something)
are too missing.

soooo i guess ccp kicked them out of the game.

any chance for an official validation of my assumptions?

thanks ccp

leo


The Replicant fleet has been on the Misnededn Ice Belt for the past 4 hours or so. They all warp in and out at the same time. All 40 of them. They don't answer in local which is his right I guess but he isn't doing himself any favours.

That's Misneden IV - Ice Field 1
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#84 - 2013-01-02 21:49:34 UTC
I rembember reading a blog with bot users tears after a ban wave, it was a great read :)

The Tears Must Flow
Soook Yu
EQUALlTY
#85 - 2013-01-02 21:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Soook Yu
Yeh lol. Thing is it's a little frustrating. The goons and James thingymajiggery all spout their sh1te time after time and here's a real target. A likely bot fleet amack bang in prime high sec ice land, a better target than the supposed afk miners they use as an excuse and the 40 boat bot fleet is left to continue. Needless to say there seems to be a representative of one of the very very very large alliances hanging around in system looking after them. He certainly is not ganking them. Or pvping. Or missioning. Just floooooooooooooaaaaaaating arooooooooound, la de daaaaaaaaaaaa.........

Just sayin right ;)

Pooooooopcorn! Geeeeeet yer popcorn!
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#86 - 2013-01-02 22:23:24 UTC
well ccp are not dumb. why create a permanent solution to the bot problem when you can profit off the idiots who do it. if they open new accounts twice a month due to bans then ccp is making money. the only people ccp would be fighting are identity thieves if they got very serous about making a final solution to botters.
Jason Xado
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-01-02 22:42:49 UTC
Soook Yu wrote:
leoplusma wrote:

last night, home system infested by 40 retrievers
their pilot names were : "Replicant_****_01"
all way to "Replicant_****_40". they were behaving
in mining the ice belt like... bots. lol.

petitioned it. i guess many of us did.
no response yet.

today i realise that those users dont even exist
anymore in eve database! along with them, some
other Replicants too (i think Replicant Dew or something)
are too missing.

soooo i guess ccp kicked them out of the game.

any chance for an official validation of my assumptions?

thanks ccp

leo


The Replicant fleet has been on the Misnededn Ice Belt for the past 4 hours or so. They all warp in and out at the same time. All 40 of them. They don't answer in local which is his right I guess but he isn't doing himself any favours.

That's Misneden IV - Ice Field 1


Warping around at the same time is not an indication of botting. For one there is the "warp fleet to..." command. Secondly, broadcasting commands to multiple clients is exactly what multiboxing software allows you to do.

Not answering in local is not a sign of botting. It's just being anti-social.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2013-01-02 22:46:02 UTC
I'd be really interested to know how much isk is removed from the economy because of bot bans.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave stark
#89 - 2013-01-02 22:52:16 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'd be really interested to know how much isk is removed from the economy because of bot bans.

i'll wager not much, if we're taking about ice mining bots.
Soook Yu
EQUALlTY
#90 - 2013-01-02 22:52:50 UTC
Jason Xado wrote:
Soook Yu wrote:
leoplusma wrote:



The Replicant fleet has been on the Misnededn Ice Belt for the past 4 hours or so. They all warp in and out at the same time. All 40 of them. They don't answer in local which is his right I guess but he isn't doing himself any favours.

That's Misneden IV - Ice Field 1


Warping around at the same time is not an indication of botting. For one there is the "warp fleet to..." command. Secondly, broadcasting commands to multiple clients is exactly what multiboxing software allows you to do.

Not answering in local is not a sign of botting. It's just being anti-social.


Which is why i said It's his right i guess :-)
I know reading is tough son but it helps in the end.

I should add that the timing of the various warps is suspicious with it coinciding with suspects in local but again, that's all it is. Suspicious.
leoplusma
Delfus Inc.
#91 - 2013-01-02 23:18:54 UTC  |  Edited by: leoplusma
deleted by me.
btw another set of 40 bots are in system tonite mining ice.
Soook Yu
EQUALlTY
#92 - 2013-01-02 23:37:36 UTC
Do you mean Replicator Deka1-40 ?
Dramelus
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-01-02 23:38:25 UTC
I know definitely that he is not a bot.

It's very funny to read 5 pages about your flame. My whole corp laughs about this thread and the pilots who lives in their hello kitty online world.
Soook Yu
EQUALlTY
#94 - 2013-01-02 23:48:28 UTC
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#95 - 2013-01-02 23:55:20 UTC
leoplusma wrote:


any chance for an official validation of my assumptions?

leo


Yep if they were part of Test Alliance then they were definitely bots Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#96 - 2013-01-02 23:56:43 UTC
Soook Yu wrote:
I should add that the timing of the various warps is suspicious with it coinciding with suspects in local but again, that's all it is. Suspicious.


That statement could have some value if you had some data to support the claim of correlation between suspects appearing in local and fleet warping out of belt, controlling for routine warpouts for the purpose of emptying ice into stations. Otherwise you are simply rumour mongering. Remember to include all instances of suspects appearing in local, and avoid confirmation bias (for example, there can be no correlation between suspects in local and fleet warping out if there are always suspects in local).

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#97 - 2013-01-02 23:57:58 UTC
leoplusma wrote:
deleted by me.
btw another set of 40 bots are in system tonite mining ice.


You have determined that they are bots using what methodology?

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Soook Yu
EQUALlTY
#98 - 2013-01-03 00:01:05 UTC
Had fun with this. The banter is better in local now.

Who ever mentioned test btw, it was one of their's that was floating around half the day.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#99 - 2013-01-03 00:08:21 UTC
40 accounts with a similar name does not prove they were running bots. You would have to be a complete moron to do so with such a setup.

I'm more interested in why people get so bent out of shape about miners anyway. If you hate their playstyle, what is to be said of your playstyle running about high-sec with your hall-monitor badge on grassing on people with no evidence whatsoever. If that's how you define fun then you have no business knocking other people for what they do.

You provide less input to the game than any dedicated miner does.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#100 - 2013-01-03 00:09:51 UTC
I'll believe there was a bot crackdown when I see another "nerf hisec" whine thread.

Oh wait...

Damn, nice job CCP! Cool

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0