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Wormholes sleepers and scanning
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Jaan Thiesant
Star Cluster Wanderer
#21 - 2013-01-02 12:30:06 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
And stay out of wormholes until you can handle yourself in 0.0 security and have a ship that can face sleepers.


Dear sister,

I can't handle many things in w-space but still i go there. If i only have the skills to kill one wave, that's enough for me because being there and getting out alive was the reward.

Besides, there are ships in w-space more dangerous than the Sleepers themselves, but the lack of Local makes this game more interesting.
Jet Fuel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-01-02 14:12:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jet Fuel
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:

Using a mouse to control a 3d camera of this nature is poor design and nothing but frustrating and time consuming.I have the fit you recommend and spent 50mil on sister lancher but like most things in eve its VERY expensive to buy and profits to be made from it are tiny for new players .I dont know how any new player gets through this game with out buring through plex and the more i play it the more i think its designed to be like that.


Its not that bad once you get used to it. Remember to double left click on the star to keep the camera focused on the center of the system and once you lock down a signal double left click either on it or a nearby planet/station to keep the camera pointed in that area.

The game does have a very steep learning curve in the beginning, but once you start to figure out the basics and get a good idea of ship loadouts and skill requirements, the money will start rolling in. Eve is a very complex game, probably one of the most complex MMOs out there, and it takes a great deal of time to master.

As far as scanning goes, there are red circles, red dots and red spheres. Each one means something different. A red sphere around one of your probes means that probe hit a signal and the signal is somewhere inside that sphere so move your probles inside it and make sure that the entire sphere is covered. A red circle on the screen means that a couple of your probes hit a signal and the signal is located somewhere ON that circle. So don't place your probes inside it, place them along the circle making sure its all covered and all probes over lap. A red dot means that your probes have isolated the signal's location but the signal is too weak to pinpoint what it is. Keep increasing the signal strength.

The other important thing to remeber is that you will never get 100% signal unless at least 4 probes get a hit on that signal. You have to have at least 4 probes out to get 100% lock. 1 probe is enough if you are just seeing if something is in the system, but you'll need 4 to track down where it is.
Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#23 - 2013-01-03 00:49:10 UTC
If you are having problems with dissapearing signatures when scanning, you probably have an active filter.
Combat sites in a wh require no probes to find! (the rest do)
Scaramanga Erquilenne
#24 - 2013-01-03 01:42:11 UTC
To be hounest i have give up on exploreing for the moment got nothing but frustartion and expense from it,Have all my filters clear and i do the scans correct ,Cant find are scan anythiing apart from wormholes and ore sites that are worth the same in value as standard ore and find nothing else of interest.

Like most things in this game its costs alot to do requires lots of time and has very little return in the way of isk to buy ships and skill books.

Think i will give the game a break for a while not intertested in paying for Alts just to be able to do some thing in game.Will just log in to train my skills and research blueprints etc try again in 6 months seems the logical thing to do with this game. ))
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist 
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-01-03 06:47:57 UTC
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:
To be hounest i have give up on exploreing for the moment got nothing but frustartion and expense from it,Have all my filters clear and i do the scans correct ,Cant find are scan anythiing apart from wormholes and ore sites that are worth the same in value as standard ore and find nothing else of interest.

Like most things in this game its costs alot to do requires lots of time and has very little return in the way of isk to buy ships and skill books.

Think i will give the game a break for a while not intertested in paying for Alts just to be able to do some thing in game.Will just log in to train my skills and research blueprints etc try again in 6 months seems the logical thing to do with this game. ))

Hoenstly, just training and waiting is a good way to screw your interest in the game.

as i said earlier, give a small-gang corp a try in lower end holes, or hell, see if any of the intro-corps in the big boys like SYJ (my group), exhale, transmission, etc, are having a recruitment drive.

TRUST ME, most corps in WH space will accept you in a heartbeat so long as your cooperative and nice, though i would recommend asking for a basic PvE fit to train towards to make money with their fleets.

trust me, you start living with the big boys in WH's, and sooner or later you wont care about alts because you'll be making enough money for free accounts.

No promises, but again, EvE is a game that you just have to throw caution to the wind, go out, and have fun killing/getting killed.
Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-01-03 06:56:41 UTC
Even if you don't do whs or exploration sites the game is more fun with others then playing solo, the community is also vastly different then other games. I can't tell you how to play or spend you money but just because your skills are gonna be higher in 6 months does not make you a better player, the game is 10% sp 90% player skill, you can find that a lot from post by returning players who can fly bs and not have a clue how to use the (if any are reading this no offense). Any way gl OP if you wanna ask me any questions always willing to help people, so just send a mail.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post
Jet Fuel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-01-03 14:52:59 UTC
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:
To be hounest i have give up on exploreing for the moment got nothing but frustartion and expense from it,Have all my filters clear and i do the scans correct ,Cant find are scan anythiing apart from wormholes and ore sites that are worth the same in value as standard ore and find nothing else of interest.

Like most things in this game its costs alot to do requires lots of time and has very little return in the way of isk to buy ships and skill books.

Think i will give the game a break for a while not intertested in paying for Alts just to be able to do some thing in game.Will just log in to train my skills and research blueprints etc try again in 6 months seems the logical thing to do with this game. ))


Once you start tracking down radar sites you make big money hacking them. You are trained in codebreakers and analyzers right?
Scaramanga Erquilenne
#28 - 2013-01-03 16:17:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Scaramanga Erquilenne
Jet Fuel wrote:
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:
To be hounest i have give up on exploreing for the moment got nothing but frustartion and expense from it,Have all my filters clear and i do the scans correct ,Cant find are scan anythiing apart from wormholes and ore sites that are worth the same in value as standard ore and find nothing else of interest.

Like most things in this game its costs alot to do requires lots of time and has very little return in the way of isk to buy ships and skill books.

Think i will give the game a break for a while not intertested in paying for Alts just to be able to do some thing in game.Will just log in to train my skills and research blueprints etc try again in 6 months seems the logical thing to do with this game. ))


Once you start tracking down radar sites you make big money hacking them. You are trained in codebreakers and analyzers right?




Yes trained in code breaking in most codes to level 3 . I will come back to it and try again once i improve my skills.I just need to rest my brain for a few days.Case of information overload with EVE some times with me .

Going to play London Olympics game and bash the A and B buttons for a few days Lol ,Will come back to Eve refreshed after that ))) .Again thanks for the help and advice, Even when i do spit my Dummy out on a weekly bases with Eve
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist 
Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-01-03 20:42:39 UTC
Exploration on the cheap:

Use an exploration frigate. After Retribution, they get great bonuses to scan strength, can fit expanded probe launchers, and have enough muscle to clear profession sites in highsec. At racial frigate V, you get a %37.5 bonus to scan strength. At frigate IV, that's %30. With the ability to fit everything you need for profession sites, they're the best thing for highsec short of a T3 cruiser. (Cov Ops get a better bonus skilled to level IV but fewer usable expansion slots.) You should be able to fit one to clear radar sites for under 1 million.

Buy cheap upgrades. Gravity Capacitor Upgrades and Sisters Probes give you a better bonus at a fraction of the cost of a Sisters Launcher. Unless you have a habit of forgetting them, you really only need the maximum number probes you can launch. The Sisters Launcher is probably the last purchase you should make because there are better and cheaper ways to get the same level of bonus.

Train up your skills. Astrometrics lets you put more probes on the field. Astrometric Rangefinding gives you %10 scan strength for every level.

Avoid wormhole space unless you're prepared for it. Focus on identifying and scanning down radar sites and combat plexes you can comfortably complete. Use dotlan maps to find likely low-pop roam areas.

Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-01-03 21:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Casirio
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:
To be hounest i have give up on exploreing for the moment got nothing but frustartion and expense from it,Have all my filters clear and i do the scans correct ,Cant find are scan anythiing apart from wormholes and ore sites that are worth the same in value as standard ore and find nothing else of interest.

Like most things in this game its costs alot to do requires lots of time and has very little return in the way of isk to buy ships and skill books.

Think i will give the game a break for a while not intertested in paying for Alts just to be able to do some thing in game.Will just log in to train my skills and research blueprints etc try again in 6 months seems the logical thing to do with this game. ))


Hey..dont give up so easily. wormhole space is (in my opinion) the best space in Eve. You obviously need a little more time training skills and probably could use so more info on w-space. Here are a few links stickied at the top of the wormhole sub forum here.

Complete Guide to W-space: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6479&find=unread
http://www.wormholefundamentals.com - Video series about w-space (credit to ADHC)
http://www.staticmapper.com - Website dedicated to mapping w-space
http://downthepipe-wh.com - Wormhole Podcast
http://wormhol.es - Great wormhole intel tool

Join our pub channel "BITIN" if you have any wormhole questions. We will be more than happy to answer any wormhole questions...well, some may troll but seriously, have any questions just ask.

btw: I pretty much only use my one toon for everything.. Dont need a bunch of alts and **** and all this misconceptions about wormhole space is just that, misconceptions.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#31 - 2013-01-04 10:04:49 UTC
Mission bots now have sleeper AI, right down to the bitchy wiping-out of drones that makes combat drones useless solo. Run some missions and that will give you some idea of how sleepers behave, as they're the same but beefier (faster, more HP, better repair rates, and so on).
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