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Concordokin For Shooting Abandoned 'Blue' Wreck

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-01-01 03:24:17 UTC
the solution is to leave hi sec.

when the rules governing it become so complicated that they REQUIRE an automatically check-boxed safety system to prevent customer rage.... but apparently lots of people are o.k. with this...


anyway, live in low sec or null, and you can shoot whatever you like while in the belts.

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Aemonchichi
Limited Access
#42 - 2013-01-01 04:03:55 UTC
well dude, blue wrecks belong to everyone so if u shoot it u commit a crime against everyone in eve, even urself^^

concord does an amazing job following darwins targetcalling ^^
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#43 - 2013-01-01 09:22:23 UTC
Dr Ludovicus wrote:
Yesterday I experienced allmost the same issue;

Me and some alliance mates were in a fleet doing missions.
I docked up and one guy in fleet was looting our wrecks, he accidently used a target painter on one of our wrecks (white to everyone in fleet) and got destroyed by concord. We both petitionned this and are waiting for the verdict.

(Posted with an alt char because of... lazy :))



It's white to loot, not to shoot. Being in the same alliance has no effect here, to be able to shoot it he'd have to be in the same player corp so there's nothing wrong and there's no need for a petition, you'll just waste GM time. Same thing thing that happened to the OP. The wreck may have been blue but the owner wasn't in his corp, so concord came over and had some fun.
ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything.
#44 - 2013-01-01 11:34:01 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Sean Parisi wrote:
Did not receive a warning message due to my safeties being off,


Thank you for bringing this to your own attention. This is a non issue, please stop wasting our time. Enjoy the consequences of your actions. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Safeties are not necessary at all in nullsec. I keep mine on green and haven't been stopped from doing anything at all.

Thanks for the contentless non-post
Dr Ludovicus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-01-01 11:38:12 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:

It's white to loot, not to shoot. Being in the same alliance has no effect here, to be able to shoot it he'd have to be in the same player corp so there's nothing wrong and there's no need for a petition, you'll just waste GM time. Same thing thing that happened to the OP. The wreck may have been blue but the owner wasn't in his corp, so concord came over and had some fun.


I think you didn't get the point:
The wreck was White to the entire fleet since we were in fleet while shooting the ships and in fleet while looting.

So some wrecks that are white can be shot while others can't? Doesn't look that normal to me...

Dr. L.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#46 - 2013-01-02 07:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Vilnius Zar
Dr Ludovicus wrote:
Vilnius Zar wrote:

It's white to loot, not to shoot. Being in the same alliance has no effect here, to be able to shoot it he'd have to be in the same player corp so there's nothing wrong and there's no need for a petition, you'll just waste GM time. Same thing thing that happened to the OP. The wreck may have been blue but the owner wasn't in his corp, so concord came over and had some fun.


I think you didn't get the point:
The wreck was White to the entire fleet since we were in fleet while shooting the ships and in fleet while looting.

So some wrecks that are white can be shot while others can't? Doesn't look that normal to me...

Dr. L.


I got it just fine, you didn't. As I stated it was white to loot (as that's the most used thing to do with wrecks) but not white to shoot. This was the case before the recent changes and it's the case now and the only way for that to have happened was if you removed safeties which is a pretty dumb thing to do in high sec as a mission runner, especially when you want to check if something is ok or not.

In short: you assumed it would be safe based on exactly zero experience with the new system (as we all had/have) and chose to try it with safeties off. Darwinism at its best.
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