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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-12-28 17:56:01 UTC
Is it an exploit to spam a person who has just lost a ship with convo invitations in order to prevent them from warping out their pod (causing client-side lag)?

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-12-28 17:57:14 UTC
Yes. Petition the terribads.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-28 18:00:17 UTC
Yes. Petition the skill-less cheaters.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#4 - 2012-12-28 18:42:40 UTC
I think you should petition. But that's just me, not sure if others agree?

/c

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#5 - 2012-12-28 18:45:17 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I think you should petition. But that's just me, not sure if others agree?

/c

Yah I am pretty sure that convo spamming is considered to be an exploit, and that CCP has already said as much in several forum posts... just can't find them atm.

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Ivbeen Cloned
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-12-28 18:46:57 UTC
What a horrible thought, trying to warp out only to have 8 convo requests block everything on your screen... Savages
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-12-28 18:53:47 UTC
CCP Customer Support official ruling here.

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Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#8 - 2012-12-28 19:53:15 UTC
Yes it is, but you can also increase you service fee to let another player converse with you to say 1,000,000,000 isk problem solved.
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-28 19:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: The VC's
Pewty McPew wrote:
Yes it is, but you can also increase you service fee to let another player converse with you to say 1,000,000,000 isk problem solved.


Or block unknown characters.



Mind you, I think the line is a bit blurry. A fleet of hundreds spamming some guy would lag him out. However one guy sending a request to pop up and distract the other player I would consider a different case.

A lot of success or failure in eve is down to how well you manage information and distraction.


tl:dr Attempting to adversely affect someones client is an exploit. Trying to distract them isn't.



Edit. it takes a lot of spammed convos to lag you out. A lot. One guy or even a small gang aren't going to pull it off. Maybe if your internet connection is weak, but then spammed convos aren't your only problem. You could be dead long before it registers on your client.

It used to be a lot worse. That pop-up would lock your UI preventing you from hitting warp. They changed it recently. It's not really an issue now in small fights.
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#10 - 2012-12-28 21:11:03 UTC
I at least wait until their dead before I convo. If the convo is civil, I try to recruit. If it's Russian, I close it.

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2012-12-28 21:26:15 UTC
Please note the following statement:

"Conversation spam - a ruling by EVE Customer Support

This is to notify all players that using conversation spam to intentionally create lag for others is considered an exploit and users found involved in such activity will be dealt with accordingly. This type of thing will be dealt with on case by case basis and punishment may include warnings and eventually even permanent bans."

Please also consider our forum rule 13: "Do not post about bugs and exploits."

If you need a clarification about game mechanics regarding certain actions, please contact your customer support by filing a petition, thank you.

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