EVE General Discussion

There is a lot of truth here, jealousy can get the better of people, so instead of doing something about improving their own circumstance, some just want every one to share their problems, that doesn't bode well for progress in Eve.

If you make it harder for people in hisec, you wont get more people moving to low/null, you will just see people roam less in low/null because it takes them longer to make ships. If it was EASIER to make isk and stuff in hisec, I'd be roaming around looking for fights all the time, lose said ships, rinse and repeat.

It can't be better than perfect. Sorry. I don't know how many times I need to say it before you'll understand.

I agree with this, atm prices are stable, economy going along nicely, nerf hisec and even pirates will start thinking twice before they try to fight with a standard frigate that cost 40 million in jita.

You like quotes? Here's a quote for you:

"Winter is coming"

Actually, yes we will. If hi-sec becomes less profitable for nullsec for industry, invention, missioning, or whatever, then the tens of thousands of null-sec owned alts that operate in hi-sec will repatriate to 0.0 as fast as you can say "ISK/hr".

Or maybe you think we will keep them there even though it makes no sense to? Why do you think we'll do that?

Heh heh heh.

Another round of production speculation changes, eh. By the way, want to buy some T1 cruisers?

No theyll just unsub.

As shown in my opening post, Hulkaggeddon tried to get everybody into null in an indirect way, ccp was losing so many subs they Buffed Mining Barges, Unheard of in the History of this game, to Buff Mining Barges so quickly .

Oh and inflation was getting outta hand too, we had so many whining posts about that, all stable now, thx to hiseccers mostly, mess with them and pvp wont be happening much, cos even your shuttle will cost 20 mil

What confuses me sometimes is trying to figure out what people actually want.

* If you want people to roam low/null looking for stuff, you have to at least make the entry safer. Hunt them all you like after they are in there, but don't force players to enter the system in a way so predictable (name shows up, flashing gate) that basically yells out "shoot me, I'm RIGHT HERE".

* If you think hisec is too safe, well gee, that's the damn idea of any civilized society. We already pay taxes to the NPC corps, if you must, add a CONCORD subcharge and call it the cost of police protection. If you were to nerf hisec so bad as to make people unhappy, you'd just get alliances charging for even more services to undercut hisec. Test already charges billion isk monthly fees in rent for whole systems because they know players can make more then that easily by ratting and anoms.

* If you want more balanced ship pew pew, then I think you're out of luck, because given the choice, no player wants to be on the losing side, so hunting your lone ass down with 20 ships is not called overkill, its called efficiency.

What I am getting at, is that I keep reading "let's nerf this or boost that" but I never see any arguments other then "its too easy" or "it's too hard".

* If it's too easy, you should be doing it too, not complaining.

* If it's too hard, get help in a Corp, or read spoilers on how to do it, cause I guarantee you that if anything in EVE was actually REALLY BAD, you'd hear real screaming, not just see annoyed posts in the forums, you'd get Burn Jita and Monoclegate level events.