EVE General Discussion

Obviousy Thats because theres thousands of players in Jita practically all day long, you could'nt do that in Perimeter even though it's still hisec. Get 2000 people into a null sec hub, you'll make much more, trick is to make null sec more attractive for players than it is, without ruining hisec, Jita actually keeps the Eve economy quite stable, mess with the stability of the economy and you get a sick economy.

Wreck the hisec economy, and a null sec economic depression will follow, thats a given.

So the trick is AFK trading in Jita ... niiiiiiiice ... and do you actually play the game, instead of number-crunching with a spreadsheet ?

I do missions, I mine, I build things, I try to sell them for a profit without gouging newbies, I'm starting to dabble in exploration, I *gasp* talk in Local and make friends, I have a couple of planets producing things I might need for a (future) research POS, in short, even in my limited high sec life, I'm very active ... and all that as a casual player with maybe a couple of hours per day of 'game time'.

But I don't enjoy direct player versus player combat, I find games like Unreal or Quake soooooo much better for that ... for me a MMORPG (Many Men Online Role Playing Girls, heh) is about co-operation and interaction, but those CAN (and should) be limited if I'm in a foul mood ... let's be honest here, no-one, even my closest friends, want to hear/read me ranting about my own personnal real life problems ...

Yes, I could try to join a 0.0 Alliance (I have too many fond memories with my own corp to disband it) and try the nullbear life, but from what I see/read, it's all about obeying orders and forming blobs ... and frankly, waiting hours for maybe finding 15 minutes of mashing F1 to kill other players is a waste of my limited playing time.

Thanks for the tip about the Jita trading tough, I might invest time in that one day.

I agree with you..... but then i dont.

High low and null all need to be rebalanced.

Some aspects of high need to be hit with the nerf bat repediatly( incursions, lvl4s, afk anything)

Low needs something that no other zone has that will make people want to brave the pirates

Null needs to be made less boring and sov fixed.

POSes need to be rebalanced so doing industry from them is better than at high sec stations.

I can go on but these are the main issues that i have noticed

Lived in Hi, Low, Null and currently WH resident - basically left Null because I had seen enough ASCII art.....

Yeah, EVE Online is reallu unbalanced as it is.

This must continue in order to keep to a consistent trend. Never nerf highsec ~~

Yep, CONCORD will control our lives.

In all seriousness, sitting in Jita and playing with orders is both ridiculously fun and profitable.

I feel bad for all you droolies who are like "durr numbers, i go shoot red crosses and spacerocks instead". Pathetic.

Highsec is the way of the future, stop fighting it.

Sometimes in this discussions I feel like I'm reading the notes from a person in an insane asylum.

TL;DR

EVE is already hardwired with difficulty levels, they are Hard, Harsh, and Deadly. The new players already start on Hard difficulty, and most of the hardcore crowd want to force them to step up because "they don't have enough fresh meat to shoot at". How about you recruit new players for that, and let the more casual crowd explore the universe anyway they want.

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* First off, Its just a GAME. Yea, that's really hard to comprehend for a lot of EVE players. One day, maybe all the devs will be caught in a meteorite acident, or a disgruntled ex employee will wipe the database and backups, or maybe they'll go bankrupt because of a screwup somewhere, and then, all your shiny spaceships and billion SP toons will be GONE.

* Since it states clearly everywhere that it's a "Sandbox" it means that some players will just take a look around, decide on what to settle on for X months and just do that. If They decide it's hisec, they will stay there regardless of how many nerfs you apply, if it's low/null they will join a corp and wonder around with them, uncaring of the extra difficulty because they want the challenge. The point of game for people is to find a confort zone, they will stay there untle THEY are ready.

* Every time a new patch comes out that changes mechanics, there's VERY LARGE corps that will VERY QUICKLY find a way to exploit them in some way, something that individual players are not able to do before CCP eventually goes "oh noes!" and "fixes" it. They make tons of money, and for the little players, the game just gets harder.

* It's pointless to say to carebears to "HTFU it's a PvP game" you don't get the right to start playing eve simply to quench your thirst for blood on easy prey, that why hisec protection exists in the first place, you want to kill at will, roam lowsec with the other piranhas, that's basically what it's design intention is, same way that null is where all the politics and blob battles happen as people try to push each other around. Different play styles for different people, that's what's cool about wormholes, yet another life choice available.

* If you can't find enough people to kill in low/null it's not because the carebears aren't been pushed there, most of them probably don't even want anything to do with it, and if you did force them, you'd just have less of them. If there is a lack of targets it's just because there's not enough of the PvP minded people around, these arguments are like trying to force someone that just want to be a logi pilot to do combat. Maybe he'd just rather not play, if his options of play style get taken away.

* You can nerf/boost high/low/null all you want. A new balance will just appear, and if it does not, and the game instead breaks down, it was never a proper sandbox to start with.