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What is the best way to grind standings for a corp???
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Fishy Fisher
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-26 07:10:19 UTC
I'm trying to get standings for Emperor family ASAP. What is the fastest/easiest way I can achieve this?


At the moment I am running level 1 transport missions.
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-12-26 07:24:43 UTC
Can train the skills Social, Connections, and Negotiation and running missions, lots of missions.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Fishy Fisher
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-12-26 07:35:03 UTC
Capt Starfox wrote:
Can train the skills Social, Connections, and Negotiation and running missions, lots of missions.


One thing I need to mention is that my char is a fresh toon.
Sgt LoveDragon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-12-26 07:37:13 UTC
Fishy Fisher wrote:
Capt Starfox wrote:
Can train the skills Social, Connections, and Negotiation and running missions, lots of missions.


One thing I need to mention is that my char is a fresh toon.



The age of your char changes nothing.
Fishy Fisher
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-12-26 07:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Fishy Fisher
Sgt LoveDragon wrote:
Fishy Fisher wrote:
Capt Starfox wrote:
Can train the skills Social, Connections, and Negotiation and running missions, lots of missions.


One thing I need to mention is that my char is a fresh toon.



The age of your char changes nothing.


Wouldn't running level 1s and 2s take ages for standing? Or no?
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-12-26 07:51:18 UTC
Yes, but training those skills will help out a lot :)

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
voetius
Grundrisse
#7 - 2012-12-26 09:13:43 UTC

> I'm trying to get standings for Emperor family ASAP. What is the fastest/easiest way I can achieve this?
Pay someone else to take the missions and share the standings with you when the missions are handed in

> One thing I need to mention is that my char is a fresh toon.
Uh oh. well you probably can't afford the first answer, unless you are an alt of an older player

> Can train the skills Social, Connections, and Negotiation

This will help and is quicker than training the combat skills to run combat missions

You can speed things up by bumping your faction standing as agents will look at the higher of faction or corp standings. You can bump up faction by doing the tutorial missions for that faction, circle missions, tag hand-ins at the Data Centers. Tag hand-ins are going to be isk expensive. Mission grinding is time intensive.

Google on Faction Standing Repair Plan - it's in the Evelopedia BTW

To fly and fit a Drake that can do Level 3 combat missions will take something like 6 - 8 weeks, there is a L3 combat agent in the Amarr trade hub.

IMO the fastest way, if you are not an alt of an older player and you don't want to spend the time training for a BC would be to blitz L4 distribution missions. Ideally you want to find a station with several L3 or L4 Distribution agents that is more than 4 - 5 jumps from low sec. Look up the corp. Emperor Family in People and Places. Check the agents tab, look at where the agents are on Dotlan or use Ombeys maps and plan accordingly.
Fishy Fisher
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-26 09:32:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Fishy Fisher
voetius wrote:

> I'm trying to get standings for Emperor family ASAP. What is the fastest/easiest way I can achieve this?
Pay someone else to take the missions and share the standings with you when the missions are handed in



Ah nice, any idea where I can find players willing to do this?

I've tried the missions channel in-game but nobody was helpful in there. :\


Also, do you think the tag thing is a good idea? Isk isn't really a problem :)
edit: There seems to be no tag hand in areas for that corp.....
Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-12-26 12:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Chelly Tau
Fishy Fisher wrote:
voetius wrote:

> I'm trying to get standings for Emperor family ASAP. What is the fastest/easiest way I can achieve this?
Pay someone else to take the missions and share the standings with you when the missions are handed in



Ah nice, any idea where I can find players willing to do this?

I've tried the missions channel in-game but nobody was helpful in there. :\


Look in the Sell Orders subforum for ones like this: [Service] Standing Improvement Service

That one looks prohibitively expensive to a new player like me, but might be affordable to you (of course, you should shop around and compare first).
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#10 - 2012-12-26 12:31:15 UTC
There isn’t one for Emperor Family but the faction standings increase is to your corp as well as your toon so effectively raising the standings in amarr also raises your standings towards the Emperor Family. The amarr data center is the one you want to focus on, but first finish training the social, and possibly the connections to get the most from their Standings bonus, (Check description, not sure which skill adds an increase to standings earned).

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers

Otherwise the long hard grind for standings is a chore, it took me 3 years to get the +6 standings for 4 factions and I am not sure if it is possible to get +6 for ammatar and khnid as well without hitting the amarr.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Bjron
501st Amarr
#11 - 2012-12-26 13:11:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Bjron
Fishy Fisher wrote:
voetius wrote:

> I'm trying to get standings for Emperor family ASAP. What is the fastest/easiest way I can achieve this?
Pay someone else to take the missions and share the standings with you when the missions are handed in



Ah nice, any idea where I can find players willing to do this?

I've tried the missions channel in-game but nobody was helpful in there. :\


Also, do you think the tag thing is a good idea? Isk isn't really a problem :)
edit: There seems to be no tag hand in areas for that corp.....

I am currently running missions out of mimen, for Niadek Emanad (l2) and Hanuka Khisegi (l3).

You are more than welcome to come and fleet up with me. I am getting ready to start level 3's after finally reaching the standing to do so.

It will cost you exactly 0 isk if you want to come join me. If you have the skills you can salvage wrecks and i can do the pew-pew, or you can run level 1's while I do 3's. I guess you could even do 3's with me if you wanted.

Only thing is, I don't get in a hurry and I move at my pace. I salvage every mission as I go.

Edit.
I also do every missions regardless of faction standings because I am perfectly fine with staying in Amarr space for ever and ever, until I die or quit the game.
I like it here, its far less populated than other places ive been.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#12 - 2012-12-27 00:34:22 UTC
Find a mission hub for Amarr and run as many 1,2,3's at the same time preferably combat missions and don't accept missions against any of the other main factions ie; Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar.
Save your social skills training for later so you can repair your standing with any major factions you had to go up against in storyline missions.
You can train social skills for boosting payments, and better missions but save your diplomacy skill for later.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-27 01:54:59 UTC
Fishy Fisher wrote:
voetius wrote:

> I'm trying to get standings for Emperor family ASAP. What is the fastest/easiest way I can achieve this?
Pay someone else to take the missions and share the standings with you when the missions are handed in



Ah nice, any idea where I can find players willing to do this?

I've tried the missions channel in-game but nobody was helpful in there. :\


Also, do you think the tag thing is a good idea? Isk isn't really a problem :)
edit: There seems to be no tag hand in areas for that corp.....


For corps more commonly ran, like CN, you can sometimes find people to fleet with. Emperor Family is harder to come by. They're usually noobs who grind slowly. More experienced mission grinders tends to have expensive boats and paranoia regarding ganking. Don't forget to remind them to share rewards in fleet, as standing gain is part of mission rewards.

Connection skill is helpful, as they allow you to skip longest part of the grind that is lvl1, and portions of lvl2 missions.

Don't run courier missions, run combat ones. Standing gain from courier is pitifully low.

There are also standing grind services, at a cost. Speed varies, look for feedbacks.
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
#14 - 2012-12-27 02:45:33 UTC
Well depending on what side your on there are 3 Trainer stations.

Each of this trainer stations will have 5 trainers each with 10 missions.

Completing all 10 missions gets you fraction standing.

Do that at each trainer station and you will be well on your way.

Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-27 02:54:32 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
Rip Minner wrote:
Well depending on what side your on there are 3 Trainer stations.

Each of this trainer stations will have 5 trainers each with 10 missions.

Completing all 10 missions gets you fraction standing.

Do that at each trainer station and you will be well on your way.


It's faction standing, not corp. And it won't get him anywhere close to pulling lvl3 missions on faction standing gained. He'll still have to grind up from scratch on lvl1 and 2s, with time spent on trainer missions is wasted. Going for faction standing all the way will take forever, at one storyline per 16 missions.

There were a brief period when trainer missions gave the same faction gain as lvl4 storylines, sadly CCP fixed it. I managed to grind up all 4 empires to above 5.0 before the cake was gone.P
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-12-28 01:36:14 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Rip Minner wrote:
Well depending on what side your on there are 3 Trainer stations.

Each of this trainer stations will have 5 trainers each with 10 missions.

Completing all 10 missions gets you fraction standing.

Do that at each trainer station and you will be well on your way.


It's faction standing, not corp. And it won't get him anywhere close to pulling lvl3 missions on faction standing gained. He'll still have to grind up from scratch on lvl1 and 2s, with time spent on trainer missions is wasted. Going for faction standing all the way will take forever, at one storyline per 16 missions.

There were a brief period when trainer missions gave the same faction gain as lvl4 storylines, sadly CCP fixed it. I managed to grind up all 4 empires to above 5.0 before the cake was gone.P

First of all, with high Faction standing all agents (except R&D) in all corps belonging to that specific Faction will be available, even if you've never done any missions for that specific corporation.

Faction standing over-rules Corporation standing which over-rules agent standing.

Secondly, train up the various Social Skills asap. After training those up to at least level 3 (level 4 is doable in short time), then run the lower level Faction Event Agents (Career, Circle, Data Center) as others have posted. That will quickly boost your Faction Standing and open up the higher level agents in that specific corporation to start running missions. In no time at all you'll quickly build up Corporation and Agent standing.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-28 02:24:32 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Rip Minner wrote:
Well depending on what side your on there are 3 Trainer stations.

Each of this trainer stations will have 5 trainers each with 10 missions.

Completing all 10 missions gets you fraction standing.

Do that at each trainer station and you will be well on your way.


It's faction standing, not corp. And it won't get him anywhere close to pulling lvl3 missions on faction standing gained. He'll still have to grind up from scratch on lvl1 and 2s, with time spent on trainer missions is wasted. Going for faction standing all the way will take forever, at one storyline per 16 missions.

There were a brief period when trainer missions gave the same faction gain as lvl4 storylines, sadly CCP fixed it. I managed to grind up all 4 empires to above 5.0 before the cake was gone.P

First of all, with high Faction standing all agents (except R&D) in all corps belonging to that specific Faction will be available, even if you've never done any missions for that specific corporation.

Faction standing over-rules Corporation standing which over-rules agent standing.



That was the point. Trainer missions alone "won't get him anywhere close to pulling lvl3 missions on faction standing gained." Please don't go ahead and assume others are idiots just because you didn't read their posts. The point was he'll still have to grind corp standing from zero on lvl1 and 2s, not 3s. Had he just grinded corp standing from the beginning, it would be the same slow lvl1s and 2s, while his corp standing goes up meanwhile.

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Secondly, train up the various Social Skills asap. After training those up to at least level 3 (level 4 is doable in short time), then run the lower level Faction Event Agents (Career, Circle, Data Center) as others have posted. That will quickly boost your Faction Standing and open up the higher level agents in that specific corporation to start running missions. In no time at all you'll quickly build up Corporation and Agent standing.


DMC


It's not all social skills. The only social skills that increase standing gain is negotiation. Connections give a flat percentage increase. All others are useless.

With datacenters added to trainer missions, it may reach lvl3 access. But it's still a significant detour, with lots of flying around, plus costs for datacenters. Lvl3s are faster, but you'll still be starting from scratch on corp standings, after doing the entire runaround. Had you just grinded corp from the start, you would've already had corp standing built up by time you have lvl3 access.

Faction standing gain is slower than corp. Larger faction slower than smaller. And Amar is the largest faction in Eve. The lvl 1 storyline missions at the end of trainer chains give less % faction standing gain than regular combat lvl2s' % corp standing gain. Meanwhile, the corp standing that you really wanted, remains unchanged. That detour is a longer way around, back to the starting point, not a shortcut ahead.

tl;dr:
This idea isn't as smart as you think it is.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-12-28 04:33:00 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
It's not all social skills. The only social skills that increase standing gain is negotiation. Connections give a flat percentage increase. All others are useless.

tl;dr:
This idea isn't as smart as you think it is.


Actually it is.

Social = 5% bonus per level to NPC agent, corporation and faction standing increase.

Connections = 4% Modifier to effective standing from friendly NPC Corporations and Factions per level.

Negotiation = Improves agent effective quality. 5% additional pay per skill level for agent missions.

With Social trained to level 4, that's an additional 20% increase to agent, corp and faction standing increase for mission completion. With Connections trained to level 4, that's a 16% increase to effective standing (modified) which is what the agents, corps and factions all look at for access. Negotiation mainly increases ISK reward payment.

Starting from scratch:

With Social and Connections trained, completing the 3 Data Center "Graduation Certificate" missions along with running the agent mission listed on the cert for that specific faction should get a player easily up above level 2 agents.

Since the Factions have ally's that give positive derived standing gains, the player can run the same agent missions for the allied Faction. That should give access to level 3 agents. That's about 18 to 20 missions total.

If not, completing the Data Center Copper Tag missions will definitely allow access to level 3 agents. If not enough ISK to buy the Copper Tags, running the Career Agent missions will definitely give enough ISK to buy the Tags due to mission payment, bounty, loot and selling the extra career agent items. Not to mention it'll also increase the Faction standings as well.

Each and every one of those missions give Faction standing increase. In my opinion it's a lot quicker than grinding a bunch of regular missions just to level up. But hey, to each his own.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#19 - 2012-12-28 06:12:26 UTC
Fleet up with a mission blitzer who runs security level 4s with the corp you want standings with. I use to run a standing boosting business back when I lived in hisec and my rate was ((Mission Isk Payout / 2) + ((LP / 2) x 4000))). I collected before I turned in the mission so my clients needed to trust be a bit to get the ball rolling. I also use to split storyline security missions which could give 10-13%+ to corp standings for both pilots (+1.3~) the faction standings dont split.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#20 - 2012-12-28 09:13:14 UTC
You can purchase standing to over 5.0 (enough to anchor a pos) with any two factions via the data center and Cosmo missions. The mission objective's are readily available on the market and have been pre farmed for your convince. Expect to pay upwards of 500m ISK to get to the 5.0 mark but it beats doing it yourself if you hate missions.

Great way to set up market trade alts.
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