EVE General Discussion

Many entities in in CFC and HBC have already reset each other. GSF and TEST proper are still blue, but this doesn't include FA, Raiden., PL and quite a few others. So while Goons and Test are still friends, that doesn't spill over to friends of friends.

EXE is indeed both in HBC, and CFC.

No, GSF is not CFC. TEST, and GSF are still Blue to eachother, but that does not extend for the Entire HBC/CFC. IIRC some in the HBC, and CFC are actually -10 to each other.

We'll be shooting at each other in about 2 hours. But it is mostly for fun.

And ExE is in both, but CFC and HBC don't currently share much in the way of strategic interests, so that does make ExE's role sort of ambiguous. I didn't make the map, but that is my guess as to why they are colored the way they are.

Again, GSF and TEST are still blue, but that doesn't mean a member from either alliance can fly from Tenal to Esotaria and expect to see blues the entire way.

Ah, that's the one I was referring to. Walter Stine of TEST to be exact.

solar block is busy with war as it is there would make no sense to start more conflicts at this point.
and people saying null is stagnant is sort ignoring how manny alliances that has been crushed and split under the weight of wars that cfc and hbc has waged,its been very very turbulent.

You cant blame the enemy for using diplomatics to gain numbers...thats just ********.

If cfc and hbc is so large it was done using game mechanics...the same mechanics anyone else in the game can deploy.

Ive fought the blob,we had a 80 man gang of drakes ,local climbed to 1400 of reds, somehow someone got 1400 nerds to coordinate login and form in correct ships on a titan with the morale high enough to go after us.

It sucks to be the number 80 but to ccp it means player created event made 1400 nerds login to the game.

longterm it might damage eve but that only happens if the opposing blocks dont get their **** together and start a counter movement....i dont think the moongoo matters,you dont win eve by isk,you win by demoralizing the enemy until they stop forming fleets.

tldr: beatings will continue until morale improves.

next time hire better diplomat....

you know: when you "join" something you get blue standings and not red

Actually you can't recruit everyone when everyone has already been recruited, but lets assume someone wants to go through the hassle of remaking making one big happy sea of blue, why not just save the time and headache and just join the existing one?

What is the alternative though?

People seem to want a nullsec that is as unfriendly with each other as possible. But what would that even look like?


For fun, all you guys that hate the sea of blue, take a map of New Eden and color code it to represent fictional alliances broken up into what you would consider and idea nullsec diplomacy landscape.

We've seen a couple maps on what it currently looks like, and what people think it looks like.

I am honestly curious about what people think it _should_ look like.

Yes OP I am quite shocked as well that so few systems were flipped in, say, the middle of a week during Xmas when everyone is going about their shopping and preparations...