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Celina Aremac
Alsolon Mining
#1 - 2012-12-21 09:56:40 UTC
Hi,
New to EVE and looking to pair up with my friend who has also just started, we want to buy BPOs, research them and then from there manufacture and make copies.

However, for the life of me I cannot find anywhere whre you can find a list of what NPCs sell what T1 BPOs? We wanted to do the simple task of making our own ammo as a starter, but I can't find where I can buy an original BPO for them!

I am sur I read that most T1 BPOs are sold by vendors and others and higher tech ones need to be researched, etc.

Can anyone help me out here, I've spent a lot of time trying to find somewhere with no luck?
Don Aubaris
#2 - 2012-12-21 10:02:13 UTC
Go Market.
Take Blue Prints
Select whatever you are looking for (like a specic ammo)
Click View Details and you'll see all the offers
RaTTuS
BIG
#3 - 2012-12-21 10:03:16 UTC
if it's on the market then it is a 0ME / 0PE original
if it is a racially made thing then it will be in the region where that race comes from ....
i.e. projectile weapons from minmatar space
armar reppers form amarr space ..

also see
http://zofu.no-ip.de/bpo

http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://i.imgur.com/kYLoKrM.png

calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#4 - 2012-12-21 10:06:45 UTC
Search for it at http://eve-central.com/
Celina Aremac
Alsolon Mining
#5 - 2012-12-21 10:07:16 UTC
Thanks, may seem like a stupid question, but how do you tell the difference between a BPO and a copy?
Matthew97
#6 - 2012-12-21 10:08:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthew97
Celina Aremac wrote:
Hi,
New to EVE and looking to pair up with my friend who has also just started, we want to buy BPOs, research them and then from there manufacture and make copies.

However, for the life of me I cannot find anywhere whre you can find a list of what NPCs sell what T1 BPOs? We wanted to do the simple task of making our own ammo as a starter, but I can't find where I can buy an original BPO for them!

I am sur I read that most T1 BPOs are sold by vendors and others and higher tech ones need to be researched, etc.

Can anyone help me out here, I've spent a lot of time trying to find somewhere with no luck?



Well as stated you can buy them directly from the market at 0ME / 0PE.

If you're looking for a NPC retailer (who could be cheaper or more expenive) you can go to the Corp information for each corp (Sucks i Know) and go to "Market Activity" It will show what they seed and how much for in all of their stations.

For example ORE seed all the Mining Barge BPO's but only have stations in Null Sec, yet you can buy it cheaper in certain regions than if you went to an ORE station and got it from an NPC and then try and get back to High Sec.

All T2 ones do need to be Invented from a T1 BPC (There are TECH 2 BPO's out there but they are very rare and highly unlikely to be for sale, if they happen to be they'll be way up in the billions)

Also the link Rattus provided allows you to search for the BPO and tells you what NPC corp sells them

Celina Aremac wrote:
Thanks, may seem like a stupid question, but how do you tell the difference between a BPO and a copy?



When you check the attributes it will state "BLUEPRINT ORIGINAL" or "BLUEPRINT COPY". Note that Copies cannot be sold on the market, only via contracts / direct trades etc.
Celina Aremac
Alsolon Mining
#7 - 2012-12-21 10:10:42 UTC
Matthew97 wrote:
Celina Aremac wrote:
Hi,
New to EVE and looking to pair up with my friend who has also just started, we want to buy BPOs, research them and then from there manufacture and make copies.

However, for the life of me I cannot find anywhere whre you can find a list of what NPCs sell what T1 BPOs? We wanted to do the simple task of making our own ammo as a starter, but I can't find where I can buy an original BPO for them!

I am sur I read that most T1 BPOs are sold by vendors and others and higher tech ones need to be researched, etc.

Can anyone help me out here, I've spent a lot of time trying to find somewhere with no luck?



Well as stated you can buy them directly from the market at 0ME / 0PE.

If you're looking for a NPC retailer (who could be cheaper or more expenive) you can go to the Corp information for each corp (Sucks i Know) and go to "Market Activity" It will show what they seed and how much for in all of their stations.

For example ORE seed all the Mining Barge BPO's but only have stations in Null Sec, yet you can buy it cheaper in certain regions than if you went to an ORE station and got it from an NPC and then try and get back to High Sec.

All T2 ones do need to be Invented from a T1 BPC (There are TECH 2 BPO's out there but they are very rare and highly unlikely to be for sale, if they happen to be they'll be way up in the billions)

Celina Aremac wrote:
Thanks, may seem like a stupid question, but how do you tell the difference between a BPO and a copy?



When you check the attributes it will state "BLUEPRINT ORIGINAL" or "BLUEPRINT COPY". Note that Copies cannot be sold on the market, only via contracts / direct trades etc.



Thanks for the help, what does 0ME / 0PE mean?

Hate being the newb when starting a new game -.-
Celina Aremac
Alsolon Mining
#8 - 2012-12-21 10:11:58 UTC
Also, thanks for letting me know that you can only sell originals on the market, here I was thinking you can't tell the difference, but they are only BPOs!

Matthew97
#9 - 2012-12-21 10:14:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthew97
Celina Aremac wrote:
Matthew97 wrote:
[quote=Celina Aremac]*SNip*



Thanks for the help, what does 0ME / 0PE mean?

Hate being the newb when starting a new game -.-



No worries :P

ME stands for Material efficiency, PE stands for Product efficiency.

The higher the "ME" of a BPO / BPC the less materials will be required when its built.

The higher the "PE" of a BPO / BPC the faster it will be built.

Note that it does take a long time to research them up depending on the level you want.

The link Rattus provided also shows you how long it will take + what it will save you :)




Edit: I forgot to mention that only BPO's with ME / PE 0 can be sold on the market, so even if a BPO has a ME of 16 it cant be sold on market.
Pyre leFay
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-12-21 10:18:06 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Researching_blueprints

Copies can be bought from contracts, they cost pennies compared to some bpos, and most are pre-researched so you don't need the weeks and months required for larger ships to train up time and material efficiency.
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#11 - 2012-12-21 10:51:17 UTC
Also if you are planning to not sell for cost but maybe make some profit this is a very handy tool:
http://www.eve-market-guide.com/
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#12 - 2012-12-21 11:15:22 UTC
Celina Aremac wrote:
Thanks, may seem like a stupid question, but how do you tell the difference between a BPO and a copy?


Another quick way is: the BPOs are deep blue, the BPCs are washed, brighter light blue. Plus if you right click and Show Info the BPCs say "Blue Print Copy" and have "Runs left".
ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-12-21 12:05:41 UTC
Thread moved to Science & Industry

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#14 - 2012-12-21 12:29:10 UTC
Celina Aremac wrote:
Thanks for the help, what does 0ME / 0PE mean?


PE or PL stands for the Production Level of the Blueprint, and as you increase PL, you reduce the amount of waste time, so that the item can be produced faster. PL isn't too important. I try to consistently call it PL to distinguish it from the Production Efficiency skill, which can also abbreviated PE.

(Note that you want to train PE skill to 5 before you produce anything significant.)

ME or ML stands for the Materials Level of the Blueprint, and as you increase the ML, you reduce the amount of waste materials, i.e. minerals. As ML increases, you move asymptotically towards an ideal or perfected production process where there is 0.00% wasted minerals so that your profit margin is maximalized.

In adition to mineral waste from ML, you also get additional minerals wasted if your PE skill is lower than 5, and you absolutely do not want that.

So, when you buy an PL0 ML0 BPO, you want to research on it to improve its ML at least a little, but don't fret too much about PL.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#15 - 2012-12-21 12:30:55 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Celina Aremac wrote:
Thanks, may seem like a stupid question, but how do you tell the difference between a BPO and a copy?


Another quick way is: the BPOs are deep blue, the BPCs are washed, brighter light blue. Plus if you right click and Show Info the BPCs say "Blue Print Copy" and have "Runs left".


Yes, this is a fairly recent change CCP has made. It used to be that BPO and BPC were almost impossible to distinguish visually, and that made a lot of industrialists very unhappy, and CCP kept talking about how it wasn't possible for them to fix this by giving each type of Blueprint its own icon. But then they finally hardened the **** and did it anyway.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#16 - 2012-12-21 17:19:10 UTC
This won't help you find blueprints.

It may help you work out if a blueprint is profitable for you to work with:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-12-21 17:44:38 UTC
You can find out what blueprints are available for sale (and for how much) at: http://eve-marketdata.com/
For a sample: Cormorant Blueprint. Notice that the red letters "NPC" indicate the seller is an NPC.

Blueprints that have been researched, as well as copies, have to be sold via contracts.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#18 - 2012-12-22 08:30:09 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
You can find out what blueprints are available for sale (and for how much) at: http://eve-marketdata.com/
For a sample: Cormorant Blueprint. Notice that the red letters "NPC" indicate the seller is an NPC.

Blueprints that have been researched, as well as copies, have to be sold via contracts.


You can also see that it's an NPC seller, because the time Remaining column says more than 90 days. PCs, Player Characters, cannot put up Sell Orders (nor Buy Orders) with a time of more than 90 days (although the timer resets if you change the order's price), while NPCs, Non-Player Characters, routinely puts up Sell Orders with 364 day limits (maybe Buy Orders too - I don't know personally) whenever CCP decides to "seed" items or when such items are automatically "re-seeded".

Also note that you can buy everything in Jita. But usually at a markup. Well, actually, always at a markup, but sometimes the markup is so tiny that you shouldn't worry about it.
Redout Utama
Research Science Institute
#19 - 2012-12-22 18:37:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Redout Utama
eve central

in serach field: blueprint <----- Not Heron Blueprint, Punisher blueprint ...... the word "blueprint". every single SEEDED blueprint original will show up, price and location.


BPO list will generate

In game NPC seeded BPOs will be marked with 365 or 364 days duration..... Players can not make sell orders lasting that long

Next, Dotlan: route planner
Todath Narod
Integrated Secure Resources Extraction
#20 - 2013-03-20 00:35:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Todath Narod
Just bought a retriever BPC with 150 ME, 10 runs, 7.999m ISK. Thought I was getting some sort of deal. When I started the manu process and looked at the required materials, it looked like this :

Raw Materials

Item / Waste

Isogen............105,536..............32.3%
Megacyte................104..............25.0%
Mexallon...........62,200..............31.5%
Nocxium.............1,915..............17.8%
Pyerite............105,315..............48.4%
Tritanium.......683,224..............24.9%
Zydrine...................489..............17.3%

Extra Material

Isogen...............26,869
Megacyte................177
Mexallon...........39,907
Nocxium.............1,827
Pyerite............455,721
Tritanium....1,187,716
Zydrine...................446

This makes the mineral cost of the ship just over $30m ISK - hardly enough to justify manufacturing it, even with decent skills.

What was my mistake here? I didn't look at the materials requirements of the BPC in the contract, just the ME level. But, is it the case that ME doesn't matter as much as the skill of the person who made the BPC? In other words, did the seller more or less deliberately rip me off by offering a high ME BPC for this item, when their research skill was basically crap?

As I suggested, I probably made a noob mistake here, and would appreciate any guidance or help.
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