Missions & Complexes

I lolled at OP.

You're just DOING IT WRONG, face it.

Actually this makes me realize that wormholes needs to be nerfed quicly. As they make way too much too easy isk compared to much harder complexes.. Something like +200% in amount of spawning sleepers. And possibility for empty wrecks and no loot. Then we could add bunch of neut and web towers with citadel torpedo

Also reminds me that wh's can be soloed even in drake. Yes C2 or something.. I know alot guys that soloes even higer class wh's with tengu and salvager alt.. Soo why is this content made for gangs doable as solo?

So you are complaining about not having guaranteed loot for few to no effort? Lame.



Let me guess, you are nullsec carebearing plex runner, because only those think it would only happen in highsec. Nope, that happens everywhere. In highsec maybe like you said "childs play" and only for stealing. In lowsec pirates and plorers are competing (you notice the difference when a plorer just sneaks by and a pirate opens fire) and in nullsec by those claiming it their own additional.

Did sansha 10/10 with abaddon+ab guardian with medium rep. Pretty easy if you pay attention and kill cruisers and frigates fast - battleships wont hit ABing logistic. Same thing with sansha 7/10 (successfully completed one), and most probably 6/10 (didnt see one for like a half of year, really rare one)

Didn't try 8/10 - last pocket always had lots of ewar, and with bugged TD it will be almost impossible i think. Not worth time anyway - like 19 of 20 will drop only box.

On the other hand, angel plexes: succesfully completed angel 8/10 with tempest+ab logi. Again, no problem, though tempest doing it little slower than machariel :) If this setup does angel 8/10, it can do all other angel DED with no problems.

Don't know anything about guristas, probably you will never get out of jam here

Blood plexes...saw the descriptions, don't even want to try

Just pointing out how every PLEX started with a real money purchase. So the fact some won't be able to make enough to pay for plexes, will lead to less sales and accounts. They won't be truly 'quitting', but they'll drop an account or two as they can't afford the plex. And since plenty of other methods for making rather crazy isk exist, the cost of PLEX won't drop much, if it does at all. So in the end, it's a net loss for the game. Even a plex'er is a payer. I like isk too much to buy them myself, but I understand their value to the community.

I also understand CCP wanting to change AI to be more involved. But the fact that test server folks have been complaining about this for quite awhile, has me believe they are truly sold on this AI being the future. I'd say the community should focus (like many in this thread already have) on the fact that they need to quickly redo the missions/complexes/etc to make them not be so incredibly overpowered against the player.

I myself don't run complexes, and I do very few missions (a few L4s now and then). But even I noticed how badly they are toned compared to the past. My poor little drones are such a pita. Swapping back to a Raven, which to me is even less fun than a drone boat. Overall, all the AI change has done is lower income of a couple specific profit paths, and make drone sales increase. Being a manufacturer, I am greatful for the latter as I've made a ton more on drones since Ret than probably the previous year (I'm not exaggerating by much). I can't produce them fast enough for certain markets.

Anyway, my point being, that we as a community should focus on asking for mission/complex balancing and not throwing hissy fits over the AI. They knew we wouldn't like the AI, they've known for quite awhile thanks to the test players. So we need to accept that they are willing to put up with this, and direct them toward the obvious changes they can make (mission/complex balance) that might actually let us adapt properly.

/endrant

You can solo c3s in a tengu it was "possible" to solo c4's pre missle nerf but it took way too long due to low dps and was too risky in a hole that wasnt your own, a little too risky in a hole that was your own as well. Took even longer for c5s if you could manage to kill the BS's

and also on c4s and lower the main income comes from nano ribbons which are chance based drops there were nights i would grind out 15 to 20 sites and would barely walk away with 75 mil after paying for ammo and my share of fuel, of course there were also nights i would hit 5-10 sites and walk away with almost half a billon in net profit... so maybe they should change the rewards a bit... but they should also tweak the RNG to match

TLDR: Yes you can solo low to mid whs but the reward isnt always stellar (essentially the bounties/tags could be all you get), so maybe its not the loot table but the RNG that needs looked at... for everything.