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How long before you moved to low/null sec?

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Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-19 16:28:40 UTC
As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a player’s experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things I’d like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


Thanks in advance for those who’d like to chime in on any of the points above.
Skorpynekomimi
#2 - 2012-12-19 16:33:45 UTC
1. I haven't.
2. My corp has low/null interests.
3. Looking back, I was right not to. Lowsec tends to be troublesome, and nullsec is fine until a big alliance decides to snatch the entire region.
4. Find a big alliance and kowtow. Smaller ones have no chance.

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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#3 - 2012-12-19 16:34:47 UTC
1) Within a couple of weeks of starting playing when I was doing missions and didn't know any better at the time.
2) I did it alone, as I said, was running courier missions for the most part. Would rat some too in my Thrasher at the time.
3) Too soon, lol. I died very quickly from a prat on a gate. Almost quit Eve over it because it was basically all I had at the time.
4)Just be vigilant, keep an eye out, use the directional scanner, watch local and so on. Also, best to go with friends that can help you if you get into trouble until you get comfortable and skilled enough to do it alone.
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-19 16:41:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Six months
Joined existing null corp
Not too soon
Find a Corp with people you like and have a similar play style, interests, and time zone.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#5 - 2012-12-19 16:41:26 UTC
1. I think 2 weeks or so.
2. I went alone. After a while I got blown up. Got back to hi sec, started searching for a PvP corp on the corps recruitment forums, joined them, went back in low sec with them.
3. The earlier you go the better. Much less to lose, both in implants, cheap ships and... less e-honor butt-hurting. These days it might be wise to try RvB and Agony Empire first.
4. Don't believe at what you read on the forums. Join a small scale, very active corporation. Don't be a cog, a sheep, a solo gate camper as sooner or later you'll get bit or it'll turn boring to tears.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-12-19 16:42:11 UTC
1. The first time I moved to null/lowsec I was about a month old.

2. I joined an established corp.

3. It was the right time. Not because I had a specific level of skillpoints or EVE gaming experience, but because I had an interest in it and was willing to give it a go. What it really takes is the willingness to give it a serious try. Allies will help, but you've got to learn a lot on your own and the only way to learn them is to go there and start doing them.

4. Have or make friends and/or corp mates. You don't strictly speaking need them, but without them you're a single guy in a sea of hostiles who have friends/corpmates. Having your own allies opens up a lot of options and possibilies for you. More so if you're a relatively new player, since your character doesn't have a wide selection of skills and you as a player have a lot to learn about the game.
Chal82
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-12-19 16:45:56 UTC
1; Moved to low within 5 months, null within 9 months.
2: Moved with a corp, a segment of us decide to live in lowsec for easy null ops with a friendly corp.
3: Should have moved after a month
4: Be paranoid, every neut is out to kill you, so don't let them get the first shot off.
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
#8 - 2012-12-19 16:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Toku Jiang
1. It took me two weeks.
2. The only reason why it only took two weeks is because I joined an awesome corp and it was 2006 when low/null sec were a bit more exciting and the power blocs were not as strong as they are now.
3. No the move quickly advanced my game knowledge not only from a mechanics standpoint, but also by learning on the fly from my corp mates.
4. Any advice at this point would be out dated from my experience, but I would think if you trained up for a BC and were not a complete tool you could get into a null sec corp pretty quickly.
Signal11th
#9 - 2012-12-19 16:47:00 UTC
2 months, been bored sheetless ever since! Twisted

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Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#10 - 2012-12-19 16:53:45 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:
As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a player’s experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things I’d like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


Thanks in advance for those who’d like to chime in on any of the points above.


2 weeks, used a destroyer to salvage then after my skills grew I started doing easy sites and stuff.
Dr No Game
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-12-19 17:02:13 UTC
~4 weeks in HiSec before I joined Dreddit. Loving Null, I have already lost many ships :D
Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-19 17:27:07 UTC
Oh, I just realized I probably wasn't too clear in my OP. I'm looking for people who basically sold their house in hi-sec and moved with their family into low/null, not those who packed their bags for a short vacation in low/null.

But I guess talking about your experiences with the latter is fine I guess. I too went for a short experiment in low-sec, got blown up, then got podded after refusing to pay a ransom for something like 50mil when I was just a few days old. My advice for people here would be: there's a test server, you can run your "I wonder if this will get my ship blown up" tests there. Blink
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#13 - 2012-12-19 17:27:33 UTC
I started playing Eve under influence of Tuskers' blogs so I knew from very beginning lowsec is where I wanna be. First ship I lost in low I think within first month, maybe 3rd week in game. Got back to low more times, always wanting more of it. Finally 4th month I joined R1FTA. I don't think it was too late or too soon, I wanted to be in lowsec and I found a bunch of misfits that I really enjoy talking to and fly with (or rather without since solo is my preferred way of dying).

My advice: do what you wanna to do and where you want to do it and don't let anybody to dictate how you suppose to play game you pay for.

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#14 - 2012-12-19 17:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
Two months.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Invited into ok corp, it was nice and easy.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
It was perfect timing - most likely I wouldn't do that later.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
If you won't find it interesting during first month - don't waste your time there, you can always return later with better set of skills, more assets, better knowledge of the game (i.e. it may be more enjoyable later)
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#15 - 2012-12-19 17:37:10 UTC
1. 5 months into the game
2. My entire alliance moved to null in one go, as CCP borked war decs so staying in high sec was impractical for a group of our size
3. I wish I'd moved there sooner. All that time wasted as a missionbear... I was on the verge of quitting Eve through boredom when we moved, no one had told me how fun Eve could be out in null.
4. Always have local open on a seperate tab. Sounds basic, but you'd be surprised how many people new to null ignore this advice.

I would also strongly consider joining an established group out in null that is new player friendly, or be part of a decent sized group that is making the move together. The obvious choices would be any of the many newbie-friendly CFC or HBC alliances, but many other groups are beginning to realise that having high SP requirements is counter productive elistism, and you will find corps in the NC./Nulli bloc at least that will take new players.

I would also recommend doing 4 weeks or so of focused training first, just to get the basics covered, before making the move. Don't plug in expensive implants, as the easiest way to reach deep null is by podex. Aim to be able to fly a doctrine and/or ratting BC before making the move, focus on getting lots of useful skills to level 3/4 rather than a small handful to level 5 - you can add the last few levels later.
Isabelle Dmitri
Serotonine Developments
#16 - 2012-12-19 17:40:13 UTC
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I went to null after 2 or 3 months, as far as I can remember, back in 2009 though.
I went to lowsec after maybe 6 months

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Did it alone, joined a non-established null corp in NPC null that failcascaded quickly and I left a couple months later
Tried to join a lowsec corp afterwards but got ganked by corpmates as soon as I joined - Never again.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
No idea. It was the wrong time, that's for sure.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Expect to be disappointed.
Sov null is truly **** and you will be treated like ****.
pussnheels
Viziam
#17 - 2012-12-19 17:46:29 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
first 3 questions requires a long answer but my first entry into low sec was on my first character when he just barely could manage to fly a awefully bad fitted pve drake and got promptly destroyed and podded ,,, ooh the ambarrssment

I love all aspects of this game and the last 5 months in null sec been a thrill ; i ve learned more about pvp in the last 5 months than in the first 3 years of playing and i still don't claim to be good

advice always keep a eye on local and the intell channel , help to defend and fight for your space, and if your FC is any good listen to him he knows the game better than you
if the alliance calls for a ops with those and those doctrine ships , show up in one or if you can't fly them show up in a fast tackler they are always welcome , while you train up the neccessary skills and don't be afraid of losing ships a good alliance /corp takes good care of its members

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#18 - 2012-12-19 17:48:46 UTC
1. I think I played in hisec for a few months (3-4) with occasional daytrips into lowsec. After the first few months I visited lowsec more and more, up to the point I spent entire sessions in low. We still keep an office in hisec, as it simply offers a market absent in lowsec, and an L4 mission is good content to just socialize. I didn't exactly rush off into low / null in my first weeks, as I didn't know a single soul in this game and had to learn myself everything by personal experience. So I set out to improve my own game first, and started making friends ingame.

2. As a corp. At the time we moved there our corp was kind of down on active members. I talked an Alliance into +5-ing us for PI purposes and recruited lots of fresh blood. Using good PI tax rates and some training advice to fatten their wallets, I managed to retain enough of the right kind of people to grow into a more serious corp that could at least hold and defend a single moon. So we started as a very small group of lone wolves and grew a lot after carving out an initial home for ourselves.

3. EXACTLY the right time. The first newbie I recruited at that time is now one hell of a market player / POS manager. His entry into the corp was the spark that we needed at that very time. I also got lucky recruiting a few people with strong pvp interests shortly thereafter.

4. Never give in to demands, but give generously to those that help you. Play like you want to play, screw everyone who disagrees with your playstyle. Never believe something "cannot be done" because some vet says so, breaching consensus is part of the challenge, part of the fun. Refuse to use alts, you'll have more fun in low/null with a good main and it's reputation.

4.5. For lowsec: pvp there untill you know EXACTLY how agression rules work. I've seen experienced nullbears get blapped for billions of ISK by players or CONCORD because their knowledge on the subject was severely lacking, and they got outplayed by lowsec denizens. Always post a GF or GG in local, even if you got blapped. Piracy and etiquette are not mutually exclusive. Above all: HAVE FUN. Go do something else if you are not.
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#19 - 2012-12-19 17:52:40 UTC
My story, the abridged version:

I was playing for a week, I think, by myself...and then I decided to go to the recruiting channel to join a corp. I joined this corp, a nullsec corp, and went off to Omist and never looked back. I moved around nullsec a few times, changed corps a few times, did some really cool stuff and eventually ended up right back in the first corp I joined...and I'm very happy. :3
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-12-19 18:58:16 UTC
afta 3 days i moved to lo-sec
afta 3 weeks i was in null sec

stayed null for around 3+ years got bord of being just a number in a blob joined roaming 0.0 pvp corp for bit left null to go back to losec went back for short while with some allince afta few days remberd why i left and returned to losec never looked back

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
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