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CCP Focuses on EVE Universe - A CCP Announcement

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#641 - 2011-10-22 15:11:02 UTC
Ex-Cryptic? Oh god tell me its not Bill Roper O.o
Ex-Sony too? Well, he/she'll do well here, they have experience in destroying popular games

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

John'eh
Asteroid Belt Protection Services
#642 - 2011-10-22 17:24:40 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
[quote=John'eh]

How....

what's the word....?

Arrogant?



Its not arrogance if you are correct.

And no, i don't think I know everything; But I sure as hell know more than Hilmar at this point, and I think I could be of value to the company and to Eve.
C4LYP50
Solarwind Interstellar Mining and Production Ltd
#643 - 2011-10-23 10:02:08 UTC
Bratwurst0r wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
What a perfect example of what happens when a game company starts pandering to the whiny demands of the vocal minority.

I hope they learned a lesson from this.

Mr Epeen Cool



You hope they learned a lesson from what? What they do now is the lesson they learned, and its because of what you call a "vocal minority".

And you, the "vocal troll" who always said the "vocal minority" can't change anything, should be rather quiet now, because you don't look that good in the light of things. Maybe YOU should learn your lesson for a change.


This. 100% correct, and THEN some. Fanboi should know when to stay quiet.

OT: I was saddened to hear about the redundancies, and my heart goes out to you guys. Sadly, I have to say, I still feel that if a 200+ page threadnaught didn't convince you that you were onto a bad course......you can't blame the players who spoke with their wallets. Someone practically DARED them to leave, There was fair warning.
Slippery Duke
Legion of Korriban
#644 - 2011-10-23 12:11:36 UTC
Hopefully this is not a bad case of, to little to lateShocked
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#645 - 2011-10-23 14:15:51 UTC
C4LYP50 wrote:


OT: I was saddened to hear about the redundancies, and my heart goes out to you guys. Sadly, I have to say, I still feel that if a 200+ page threadnaught didn't convince you that you were onto a bad course......you can't blame the players who spoke with their wallets. Someone practically DARED them to leave, There was fair warning.


Quote:
Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.


Hilmar's arrogance washes my hands clean of any wrongdoing imo

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic
#646 - 2011-10-24 01:15:55 UTC
Has everyone gone over and read the EUROgamer interview by now? If you haven't you should.

The interview.

It clearly shows a completely unchanged and unrepentant Hilmar. I mean sure, he says a lot of pretty things, and says he's learned his lesson, and then turns around in the same breath and it's the same old Hillmar.

Case in point: In his "appology blog", he says "just wait, we have great things comeing for you this winter." Now, in his interview its "Well, don't get your expectationts too high for this winter, its just all the leftover stuff we had in the pipes anyway, because the good stuff is coming at or after fan-fest! Hmmmm, maybe next summer since I don't know if we could actually get to any meaningful work by the spring..... Our schedules are pretty tight with all the corporate sponsored vacations and all..... But, all you guys have to do is give us ANOTHER 6 months AFTER the 6 months you've already given us after the debacle! You know, just keep giving us the fair market purchase price of a new game or two every 6 months, and we might everntually get around to giving you a working one 10 years after launch. We PROMISE, we'll change! You'll see!"

Pathetic.

I honestly don't know why I'm still here. No this isn't a emo-rage quit post, so don't bother jumping on my ass about it trolls, I won't read your posts anyway. I am just saying..... as a 8 or more year vet, I seriously look around, and see no reason to stay with the exception of the friends I've made in Eve. But, most of them have already moved on to other games with me, or I with them. So, again, why am I still here? Why are ANY of you still here? Blind optomism I suppose......

Back to my hole.

Peace all.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#647 - 2011-10-24 03:47:28 UTC
Quote:
"Even now, higher-ups still talk down on players," the insider told me, "and say we have just hit a bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of our vision. We're told that it is not our fault."


"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Roldanus
Black Anvil Industries
#648 - 2011-10-24 06:01:29 UTC
There are LOT OF CORPS AND ALLIANCES supporting DUST514 and other smart and profitable ideas from CCP.

CSM will not answer this. Please CCP engage the right people on this, we will make your game more profitable and FUN at the same time. Spoiled kids from rogue alliances will not complain anymore. FOR SURE.

Roldanus
Paxamarria
Pi Omega Omega
#649 - 2011-10-24 14:35:14 UTC
Just to set the stage. CCP employs 600+ staff. See press kit information. 20% of 600 is 120.


I don't understand how letting 120 people go will help CCP focus on Eve. According to their press kit brochure page 7 they had a 100,000 subscriber increase from 2008 to 2009. However the latest announcement indicates a drop in numbers over the summer. Did the numbers drop that significantly? I would suggest the reason is simply people are probably out enjoying the weather, but I still can't imagine that many are leaving. Nevertheless, I cannot see any other reasons to let 120 people go unless CCP needs to make budget cuts, otherwise why wouldn't you just redirect their efforts elsewhere? I see CCP still advertises job openings. I don't see a hiring freeze. What's up CCP?

jason hill
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#650 - 2011-10-26 19:30:12 UTC
for those getting the chop the company i work for is recruiting for devs & testers ..and others ... heres the link logica
Le Verde
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#651 - 2011-10-27 18:10:52 UTC
no mention of the off-line skill training malarky,
no mention that they wont stop changing game mechanics to suit newer players
no mention that they would try to retain their elder player base
just some rubbish about new players numbers up and some whining about firing people...
no mention of any fixes but lots of propaganda on change, yawn yawn yawn,

hilmar p├ętursson blow me !!!
Le Verde
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#652 - 2011-10-27 18:17:16 UTC
p.s no subscriber for less than 5 years should be allowed anywhere near csm .....
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#653 - 2011-10-28 02:35:14 UTC
Le Verde wrote:
p.s no subscriber for less than 5 years should be allowed anywhere near csm .....


True, we dont want to know what new players think

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Mekela
Vinyl Roid
#654 - 2011-10-28 03:17:32 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:


You should take a break your trolling is getting boring.

PS just to troll the troll - I demand the WiS be the only thing CCP works on.
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
#655 - 2011-10-28 08:23:59 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Anyone that sees this as a good thing is not seeing what this really is.

- CCP is having financial issues.

- They also realized that the technology they bet the vampire farm on, that they couldn't deliver WiS with can't scale to an actual MMO game at this point in time. It was too resource intensive at a minimum, maybe other issues as well.

- They still believe consoles are a cash cow that will save them and DUST 514 is based on known technology, so they can deliver that.

- CCP did not ADD resources to EVE, they cut resources overall. This wasn't a "we will move 80% of our vampire wranglers to deliver WiS for example, or teach them how to makes FiS stuff". This is we are chopping up decks on our steamship to throw into the fire to keep the pumps running.

So, glad they are cutting their losses on a project that exceeded their ability to grasp and they are trying to win our "hearts and minds" with some PR spinnage but this is not time to celebrate.

This is time to ask if the sudden listing of the decks towards the bow might be something other than the ship surfing on some knarly waves like the captain just announced. Does the listing and the water up to our ankles have something to do with the second announcment that we have a new supply of fresh ice for our blender drinks?! Shocked

Issler

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M
vagy
Dicta Boelcke
#656 - 2011-10-28 18:50:57 UTC
Hilmaaaar!!! I want INCARNAAAA!!! I dont care about the different captain quarters. I want stations with all the people inside them!! Oops and all that other **** that was promised AND shown
Chi Ftele
Doomheim
#657 - 2011-11-03 14:47:22 UTC
don't go devs! you got a lot more work to do!

That is all.

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#658 - 2011-11-05 16:41:47 UTC
vagy wrote:
Hilmaaaar!!! I want INCARNAAAA!!! I dont care about the different captain quarters. I want stations with all the people inside them!! Oops and all that other **** that was promised AND shown


Incarna demonstrated that the Carbon engine was barely capable of displaying a single avatar sitting on a couch and scratching its ass without causing your PC to burst into flames. Even if CCP went full speed ahead with avatar development, you'd be waiting a long time, and CCP can't afford to keep their playerbase waiting that long for content.
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#659 - 2011-11-07 21:59:05 UTC
HELIC0N ONE wrote:
vagy wrote:
Hilmaaaar!!! I want INCARNAAAA!!! I dont care about the different captain quarters. I want stations with all the people inside them!! Oops and all that other **** that was promised AND shown


Incarna demonstrated that the Carbon engine was barely capable of displaying a single avatar sitting on a couch and scratching its ass without causing your PC to burst into flames. Even if CCP went full speed ahead with avatar development, you'd be waiting a long time, and CCP can't afford to keep their playerbase waiting that long for content.

WTH are you people trying to run EVE on?

My system is 5 years old and the CQ didn't challenge it one bit.

Advice,

A - Open up your box and blow the cat hair-balls out.

or..

B - Stop trying to run 5 pilots on one computer and then blame the CQ.


Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
Doomheim
#660 - 2011-11-15 11:54:53 UTC
I misread the title of the thread as 'CCP Focuses On Eve University'. Damn my eyes.