EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hey guys,

Anyway Ive managed to do a search on the forums about this topic, but some of the information could be old and I would like to read some opinions.

My first ship im looking to fly will be a Cheetah.

Firstly its the skills needed (from what i've read);

Minmatar Frigate V / Afterburner III / High Speed Maneuvering II / Energy Grid Upgrades II / Energy Grid Upgrades II
Electronic Warfare II / Electronics Upgrades V / Electronics V / Astrometrics II / Hull Upgrades II

What I havent learnt yet;
Cloaking III
Covert Ops III
Covert Ops IV

Am i missing anything glaringly obvious? I have the 'Core compentancy certificate' and basic gunnery. Maybe some rigging skills?

Next is the fitting, from what i've read i need speed and plenty of it, this fit was linked that I found; Cheetah Fit

Ive seen post about 'Dual props' could anyone explain a little bit more about that?

Lastly i was shown in the direction of this gentleman; Sir Livingston I cant view this website at work so i have yet to check it out, can I view his fits on the kill mails? and will that help me?.

Thanks for reading,

Vervz

Covert Ops: What do you want to do with your Cov Ops?

That fit: Okay for being scout (as it's also classed on BC as a 0.0 scout).

Dual Prop: Having both a MWD and AB on the ship. MWD to close range very quickly and AB to keep high transversal up.

Killboards: No you can't see the fit used to kill a ship (unless he also lost that same ship during the fight).

Why were you pointed into the direction of that player (that link etc just smells like: Look at my badass alt).

EDIT:

You are in a SOV alliance, ask them for help...

Yes Cheetah is the right ship for that role. However it is a very expensive ship to buy and equip. If you're just starting with PVP, much less just starting with the game, then you should not run before you can walk. You can be a perfectly adequate scout in a Slasher, which costs 500k instead of 50 mil. Sure you won't be as effective as a Cheetah, but at first you will die, a lot, so using a cheap ship is essential.

The Buzzard is a much easier ship to work with -ok- skills. The Cheetah is more skill dependent. Are you completely set on the Cheetah?

Given the cost of the ship, you probably shouldn't fly it without good support skills and T2 modules, so look up the skill requirements to fit:

1mn Afterburner II
1mn Microwarpdrive II (the tech 2 variants)

You also want good navigation skills, so train everything under Navigation (other than jump drive stuff) to at least 4, and good probing skills, so all the "Astrometrics ..." skills to 4.

Finally, given the cost of the ship, you should probably put rigs on it, and while I don't know what rigs are recommended for a covops scout, you'll need the jury-rigging skills under the Mechanic category.

It's really not a beginner ship. You should definitely NOT learn how to hide, scout, and PVP in it. Do that with a cheaper T1 frigate. The ship bonuses let you have more CPU for modules, and more importantly, increase the strength of your probing, so Cov-Ops is a skill that's best trained to 5 if you plan to use this ship, so you have max chance to find your targets. Astrometrics skills to 5 too.

EDIT: Battleclinic fits. A copy of the Goon Wiki that apparently someone put on the internets.

You need Cloaking 4 to fit a Covops Cloak.

I wouldn't recommend flying a covops for pvp purposes with either of the other cloaks as they have hideous velocity penalties which will get you killed in bubbles.

The Agony classes are good fun but the covops classes are very rare indeed. You'll get some idea of what fleet scouts need to be able to do from the basic class but its unlikely you'd notice much the first time around (you can go back on roams with them as many times as you want).

Anyway you need Cloaking 4 if you're going to fly a covops anywhere hostile.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, Ive got a few probe frigs lying around that I will use to practise scanning for now.

Voetius thank you for your help, I plan to sign upto the forums when im back home this evening, and hopefully I will be popping along to the next session!.

A few skills that you guys/gals deem essential that I will now be working toward,

Cloaking IV, Covert Ops IV, Astrometrics IV as a starter.

As speed looks like it's my only defense I think waiting until I have T2 AB and MWD will be a better strategy for not loosing lots of ISK also being able to fit the Agility / Movement speed rigs.

Appreciate the links Merouk Baas, they will help no end.

I've got a while to go yet!.

Well.

1.) I don't really look who puts up the videos. It's either a good video I save and link or it isn't.
2.) I personally don't know the guy, I know other people who I use as a source of information about exploration / covert warfare.

EDIT:

I fully agree, Agony classes are good to learn it.

Another way to learn it is, get into a DPS grunt ship and fly with as many fleets as possible. And besides listening very carefully to your FC, also listen as carefully to the scout reports. And after the fleet talk to the scouts and FC about how they do it.

And in the mean while, train your probing skills. So ask someone to hide in a safe spot and try to find him ASAP.
After a while you get the hang on how to probe them down quickly...