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why i am done with eve

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-12-18 07:40:19 UTC
explorer chaos wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
explorer chaos wrote:
let me start by saying yes i am but hurt and yes tears are involved.
loss mails to start so here you go:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256048#mail
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256050#mail


eve fails and this is why i think it does:
i have played eve for over 3 years was first war dec'ed after i had only been playing 2 months or so went on for over a month, i died lots and lots in what i could fly at the time (not many people will try to fight war deccers full stop)

thought it wasn't too bad as i was young so expected to die in pvp, however i have tried everything from wormholes to incursions to care baring running lvl 4 missions and a bit of null to make isk to try and better myself both SP wise and what ships i have to use in case of pvp.

but guess what? dosent matter what you can or do fly you will still ALWAYS get blobbed and lose whatever it is you are flying within a matter of 0-2 minutes!

this is where the game fails

people want more people to risk their stuff in pvp but if say to fit a t2 bc it takes 80-100 mill depending on you're fit and you will end up dying in a minute or so to make the isk in game even running incursions you are looking at at least 1 hour, want to fly something more expensive? still going to die in the same time but spend a lot more time playing to just make isk to pay for it.

this is why i am done with this game, i have played for over 3 years have 46 mill SP and you know what i have to show for it? 130 mill isk no assets of value no ships capable of lvl 4's or making isk of any kind nothing.
that is why i am done with eve, because yes HTFU don't fly what you cant afford to lose etc but if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing? and when you try to pvp guess what you die within a minute,

the only way to be successful in this game is to outnumber you're opponent by far or spend RL money on plexes to pay for your next ship.

/rant over


Your English is really bad.
This might come as a complete surprise to you, but EVE is a multiplayer game. Why are you complaining about other people violencing your ships in a multiplayer game? It's clear that the real issue is your inability to make friends.



17-1 odds are fair? i would'nt give a **** if it was even 5v1 but there must be a fair limit somewhere.
also not everyone is in an aliance with thousands of members


If you want a sense of fairness, you've been paying for the wrong game.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#22 - 2012-12-18 07:40:23 UTC
explorer chaos wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Your English is really bad.
This might come as a complete surprise to you, but EVE is a multiplayer game. Why are you complaining about other people violencing your ships in a multiplayer game? It's clear that the real issue is your inability to make friends.

17-1 odds are fair? i would'nt give a **** if it was even 5v1 but there must be a fair limit somewhere.
also not everyone is in an aliance with thousands of members

Yeah, only thousands of members are in an alliance with thousands of members.

We really need to HTFU and get more newbies in, otherwise someone else will outblob us.

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Opera Noir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-12-18 07:51:37 UTC
I know you brought up the point of "fly only what you can afford to lose etc." But you did not seem to follow it in this case. I could not hope to fund those losses either with my income stream. Considering your income stream is important if you want to take these kinds of risks. You need a stream that is independent of your main so even if you end up penniless you can resupply. My main income is trade and I've started trying my hand at the research/manufacturing side of things. Worse comes to worse I can pull 20 mil a day from PI but that is more time consuming than I like.

You have to understand that choosing to fly certain areas of space you are essentially 'flagging' yourself for pvp. In doing so you need to set it up so it is more favourable to yourself. Fly PvP clones that aren't worth a billion in isk. Especially when bubbles are possible. Fit just the combat mods you need, cheap ones. Don't worry about learning implants at all, you should have a separate clone for that. Flying alone you must assume you will be blobbed, you need to fit with an awareness for that. Use cloaks to help choose your engagements or find some friends.

I could fit a level 4 ship for a quarter of those losses BTW. Might not be the greatest but it would still get them done. You really should make sure you have your infrastructure in place before you go about taking huge risks.
SegaPhoenix
Chicks on Speed
Weapons Of Mass Production.
#24 - 2012-12-18 08:02:56 UTC
The one thing you haven't tried is my personal favorite thing about this game. The massively multi-player part. When I flew with TEST I always had mates, FC's, and targets for PVP. Then when we all died in a fire our ships were reimbursed by the alliance and we just kept having fun.

Never underestimate the power and imagination that other players bring to the table. With so much freedom in this game it is a real pity to spend all of it bitching and complaining.
Chal82
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-12-18 08:07:26 UTC
heres a top tip when playing EVE


Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#26 - 2012-12-18 08:15:46 UTC
I wish there were more threads as good as this one.
Dawn Onnlin
TOXIX INDUSTRIES
#27 - 2012-12-18 08:31:58 UTC
First night back from being 6 months afk, gathering some of my crap in a cloaky haulier, I got insta popped on a station Roll

An expensive loss I could have done without, but this is what the game is all about!
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-12-18 08:43:50 UTC
Chal82 wrote:
heres a top tip when playing EVE


Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

I like mine better:

Don't fight people who can afford to lose.
Tornii
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-12-18 08:50:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tornii
explorer chaos wrote:
if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing

That is like saying what is the point of driving an Audi S5 if you could drive an 18-wheel GM truck.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#30 - 2012-12-18 08:53:57 UTC
Its a shame your leaving really when i think there could have been a place for you. Obviously something about this gaem grabbed you for you to have stayed for 3 years. Maybe you need to re think the way your playing.

As other people have pointed out bigger dosent mean better and blobs can defiantely be A. avoided and B. Countered. You need a good corp to fly with for a start, one that helps you teaches you and backs you up in fights. Then you need to find PVP equall to your income.

I fly in faction warfare and i barely ever undock in anything bigger than a cruiser these days, we run frig and destroyer gangs which are incredibly cheap to use and get plenty of fights and kills every night. They are even more cost effective now with the frigate logi.

Seems to be your enjoyment is tied in with flying bigger and more expensive ships not with actually "flying" the ships from the bottom up and learning how they all work.
Just Lilly
#31 - 2012-12-18 09:08:09 UTC
Take a christmas break, reload, enjoy the holiday, check back on the game after Bear

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2012-12-18 09:11:38 UTC
PVP in cheaper ships like frgates, destroyers and t1 cruisers. Join RvB.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-12-18 09:45:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
explorer chaos wrote:
let me start by saying yes i am but hurt and yes tears are involved.
loss mails to start so here you go:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256048#mail
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256050#mail


eve fails and this is why i think it does:
i have played eve for over 3 years was first war dec'ed after i had only been playing 2 months or so went on for over a month, i died lots and lots in what i could fly at the time (not many people will try to fight war deccers full stop)

thought it wasn't too bad as i was young so expected to die in pvp, however i have tried everything from wormholes to incursions to care baring running lvl 4 missions and a bit of null to make isk to try and better myself both SP wise and what ships i have to use in case of pvp.

but guess what? dosent matter what you can or do fly you will still ALWAYS get blobbed and lose whatever it is you are flying within a matter of 0-2 minutes!

this is where the game fails

people want more people to risk their stuff in pvp but if say to fit a t2 bc it takes 80-100 mill depending on you're fit and you will end up dying in a minute or so to make the isk in game even running incursions you are looking at at least 1 hour, want to fly something more expensive? still going to die in the same time but spend a lot more time playing to just make isk to pay for it.

this is why i am done with this game, i have played for over 3 years have 46 mill SP and you know what i have to show for it? 130 mill isk no assets of value no ships capable of lvl 4's or making isk of any kind nothing.
that is why i am done with eve, because yes HTFU don't fly what you cant afford to lose etc but if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing? and when you try to pvp guess what you die within a minute,

the only way to be successful in this game is to outnumber you're opponent by far or spend RL money on plexes to pay for your next ship.

/rant over


I have played for 2 years with just about 41mil SP... have over 20bil in assets and 10 bil in isk. All done with none Indy/Missioning type work just Wars.

And I go at it alone... Just because you experience the game different does not mean there is a failing in EVE. It is just you.

If your really leaving, please send me your items and isk so I can continue what I do. Which is have fun.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#34 - 2012-12-18 10:19:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Leaving EVE threads are not allowed on the General Discussion forum, even when well-stated as is here. All it does is create a bunch of people saying "Can I have your stuff?" and tons of trolls (as is happening here). So I am locking this.

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