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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-12-17 23:15:39 UTC
nullsec politics, it's just like real-life politics, but with more guns and more pep talks,

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
malron Tzash
All-Out
White Stag Exit Bag
#22 - 2012-12-18 00:04:29 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
nullsec politics, it's just like real-life politics, but with more guns and more pep talks,



don't forget all the armies appearing out of thin air

There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. Sun Tzu
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-12-18 00:15:36 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Here's a rough map I made a few days ago for to show to rough political breakdown to some guys from another game:

http://i.imgur.com/WXqG4.jpg

Might be some inaccuracies between N3 and Neo-Curse, and I don't know anything really about the "Provi-block".

And they call high sec pilots risk adverse... lmfao Lol
malron Tzash
All-Out
White Stag Exit Bag
#24 - 2012-12-18 01:15:32 UTC
i think the question to ask at this point is what the heck is up with executive outcomes and that overlap

There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. Sun Tzu
Trendon Evenstar
Olympus Gods
#25 - 2012-12-18 01:40:42 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
And they call high sec pilots risk adverse... lmfao Lol


Hi Marlona, we miss you in the land of milk & honey. How are the southern shanty-towns treating you?
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-12-18 01:48:11 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Here's a rough map I made a few days ago for to show to rough political breakdown to some guys from another game:

http://i.imgur.com/WXqG4.jpg

Might be some inaccuracies between N3 and Neo-Curse, and I don't know anything really about the "Provi-block".


Man, I remember when all TEST had to its name was a tiny cluster of stars we called the TESTagram that Goonswarm loaned to us.

It's been a wild f'ing ride.


We still call it that.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#27 - 2012-12-18 02:13:55 UTC
malron Tzash wrote:
i think the question to ask at this point is what the heck is up with executive outcomes and that overlap

They're part of both the CFC and HBC, clearly.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
malron Tzash
All-Out
White Stag Exit Bag
#28 - 2012-12-18 02:17:01 UTC  |  Edited by: malron Tzash
Alavaria Fera wrote:
malron Tzash wrote:
i think the question to ask at this point is what the heck is up with executive outcomes and that overlap

They're part of both the CFC and HBC, clearly.

which side would they take if they attacked each other? also since the CFC and HBC are allowed to shoot each other but not structure shoots which side do they choose?

There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. Sun Tzu
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#29 - 2012-12-18 02:29:03 UTC
M1k3y Koont wrote:

IRC are with SOLAR

Negatron, the map is right on this one. As long as Solar refuses to have our back against the CFC they can eat a ****.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#30 - 2012-12-18 02:45:22 UTC
malron Tzash wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
malron Tzash wrote:
i think the question to ask at this point is what the heck is up with executive outcomes and that overlap

They're part of both the CFC and HBC, clearly.

which side would they take if they attacked each other? also since the CFC and HBC are allowed to shoot each other but not structure shoots which side do they choose?

Which side I don't know, maybe they don't know either =p

Even now, there's all kinds of stuff that happens when some gang happens to get on some jumpbridge or gate or station, angry diplo stuff, as I understand.
Jeremy Soikutsu wrote:
M1k3y Koont wrote:

IRC are with SOLAR

Negatron, the map is right on this one. As long as Solar refuses to have our back against the CFC they can eat a ****.

Don't worry, I don't think you're in any danger of losing your sov. Just... your CSAAs, and maybe some ratters/miners.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#31 - 2012-12-18 03:08:10 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Don't worry, I don't think you're in any danger of losing your sov. Just... your CSAAs, and maybe some ratters/miners.

Maybe, but that's not the point. Bottom line is as long as whatever deal they with y'all is more important to them than us, we'll probabaly reciprocate with not giving a **** about them.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2012-12-18 03:13:35 UTC
Jeremy Soikutsu wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Don't worry, I don't think you're in any danger of losing your sov. Just... your CSAAs, and maybe some ratters/miners.

Maybe, but that's not the point. Bottom line is as long as whatever deal they with y'all is more important to them than us, we'll probabaly reciprocate with not giving a **** about them.

Yeah, pretty harsh.

Still, you can get NC. and the like to show up. Was that CSAA that they showed up to defend (the first time) building one of their supercaps? Some were wondering if maybe you had managed to turn NC. into your pets...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-12-18 04:37:22 UTC
Trendon Evenstar wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
And they call high sec pilots risk adverse... lmfao Lol


Hi Marlona, we miss you in the land of milk & honey. How are the southern shanty-towns treating you?

Not bad. What happened to the weekly care packages you were supposed to send me so I can survive in these parts?? Cry
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-12-18 18:19:10 UTC
malron Tzash wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
nullsec politics, it's just like real-life politics, but with more guns and more pep talks,



don't forget all the armies appearing out of thin air

totally forgot about that.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
General Nusense
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-12-18 20:11:09 UTC
malron Tzash wrote:
i have some questions regarding who is on what side and whats going on in null (mostly has to do with southern null space)

#1) where did all these empires such as pangu coalition, nexus fleet, and insidous empire come from and are they apart of the HBC

#2) is nulli secunda part of the HBC

#3) what side is solar fleet on and if they are in their own coalition who else belongs to it

#4) is CVA and the provi bloc involved with the HBC in any wars or NAP's

#5) was unclaimed setup setup by TEST after ROL got their sov stolen

thanks for any answers i get and also feel free to speculate about null alliances in general


1) they have a nip/nap with hbc. so you can call the neutral blue
2) nulli should be a member of the HBC, they started a war with Solar and have been batphoning HBC to help them.
3) solar is standing on their own with help of their pets
4) CVA is CVA.
5) most of the south, minus nulli/ncdot are part of the HBC. but you can include nulli/ncdot in that list also. they cant fight solar so they are calling in hbc every chance they get.

Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#36 - 2012-12-18 22:29:57 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Still, you can get NC. and the like to show up. Was that CSAA that they showed up to defend (the first time) building one of their supercaps? Some were wondering if maybe you had managed to turn NC. into your pets...

I think they showed up just cause they like shooting Gewns, but it's not crazy to think it was one of their supers. At any rate in my opinion I don't think the NC. can focus long enough to be a reliable asset. Sure they'll come to fight some amout of the time and when they do they'll bring the heat, but I think the fact that they coundn't be assed to put up a for real for their own sov doesn't bode well for us.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#37 - 2012-12-19 02:47:20 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Here's a rough map I made a few days ago for to show to rough political breakdown to some guys from another game:

http://i.imgur.com/WXqG4.jpg

Might be some inaccuracies between N3 and Neo-Curse, and I don't know anything really about the "Provi-block".


I made your map prettier.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2012-12-19 03:16:28 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Here's a rough map I made a few days ago for to show to rough political breakdown to some guys from another game:

http://i.imgur.com/WXqG4.jpg

Might be some inaccuracies between N3 and Neo-Curse, and I don't know anything really about the "Provi-block".


I made your map prettier.

Oh hey, the last bits of -A- sovereignty are off the influence map. Please do your best to keep it that way.

Jeremy Soikutsu wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Still, you can get NC. and the like to show up. Was that CSAA that they showed up to defend (the first time) building one of their supercaps? Some were wondering if maybe you had managed to turn NC. into your pets...

I think they showed up just cause they like shooting Gewns, but it's not crazy to think it was one of their supers. At any rate in my opinion I don't think the NC. can focus long enough to be a reliable asset. Sure they'll come to fight some amout of the time and when they do they'll bring the heat, but I think the fact that they coundn't be assed to put up a for real for their own sov doesn't bode well for us.

Yeah, I guess having unreliable pets wouldn't be a draw...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
malron Tzash
All-Out
White Stag Exit Bag
#39 - 2012-12-19 04:12:51 UTC
Sooo when do you think you guys will get around to crushing provibloc with -A- gone, or do u think you'll just ignore them and go after solar?

There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. Sun Tzu
malron Tzash
All-Out
White Stag Exit Bag
#40 - 2012-12-19 04:16:04 UTC  |  Edited by: malron Tzash
Also my alliance old alliance used to be a part of -A- but we moved out and it seems to have fallen apart since then, went from 1000 strong to 73 and I have no idea what happened to it , if anyone knows anything about I'd be curious to know



*EDIT alliance was eternal evocations

There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. Sun Tzu
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