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IbanezLaney

The Church of Awesome

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#21 - 2012-12-17 02:53:40 UTC

von Khan wrote:

Darvaleth Sigma wrote:

6/10. Good effort, really.

I guess there isnt many Star Wars fans here....try this

[[The boundless heavens serve as a back-drop for the MAIN TITLE,
followed by a ROLL-UP, which crawls into infinity.]]

a long long time in a far away galaxy......

We got that it was a Star Wars intro.

You just didn't give an Episode Number so we are not sure which part of the story this is.

Please don't be a prequel.
They were so bad - especially the one where the Gallente leader (Jar Jar) went back to that frog city (aka Villore).

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney

Blackfyre Enterprise 288
Thomas Gore Blackfyre Enterprise Likes received: 288	#22 - 2012-12-17 06:37:13 UTC 1 I support removing all PvE elements from FW. Pronto.

Hidden Snake

Inglorious-Basterds

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#23 - 2012-12-17 07:23:29 UTC

cearaen wrote:

Pinky Feldman wrote:

...sensible post explaining that its not inherent in any militia that they will be prone to farmers than others, but instead that people just tend to prefer more money rather than less......

In the end, its unfortunate that we didn't spend more time talking about what extrinsic CCP given reasons players have to join and stay involved in a particular faction, during Inferno, since its unlikely we'll recieve much more love for our feature in the future.

Depending on what post you read from Hans ccp either listened to him at an unprecedented level or not at all. But it was clear that he changed his position on what he was telling ccp and after he changed his position ccp did what he advocated.

During his campaign and at the beginning he was very strong that there needed to be economic balance. But later he argued the winning side was being "punished for winning too much" and pushed through the retribution system which had even fewer economic balances. When questioned about this he got pretty defensive and refused to be reasonable. (see the features and ideas discussions on I hubs) After he was pushed he admited he didn't think there needed to be any economic balance.

After inferno everyone was space rich from farmign the stupid system and so the economic imbalance is still not that big of a deal. But over time as the rich pilots leave faction war and new poorer pilots keep joining you will see that which ever side is winning will tend to keep getting new pilots and the losing side will fade.

Pinky Feldman wrote:

Has this kind of factional division and propaganda existed since FW was created? Yes, probably. Its probably also why FW was a largely irrelevant feature in the eyes of the rest of EVE for the many years it's been around, until Inferno. Something to consider.

As far as history, we never really used to complain that one side or the other was farming plexes because there was absolutely no pay in it other than tags. All the old guard plexers were either in it for roleplay, bragging rights, or pvp. There of course has always been the criticism that plexing is most effectively done as a pve activity, but it wasn't an issue with farming. Sure missions were farmed but that never effected occupancy.

in general this. I must say actual problem is that Hans pushed worse solution if it is combined with stupid tier system. Hans actually killed chance of lowsec dwellers to have independent and mutually acceptable candidate for CSM forever. :(

Mutnin

SQUIDS.

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#24 - 2012-12-17 08:31:17 UTC | Edited by: Mutnin

Hidden Snake wrote:

Anyone that didn't think Hans was going to just push a bunch of self serving BS was a fool. Just had to read the stuff he posted to see he was just in it for his own issues. He was never about actually fixing FW.

Hidden Snake

Inglorious-Basterds

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#25 - 2012-12-17 09:55:13 UTC | Edited by: Hidden Snake

Mutnin wrote:

Hidden Snake wrote:

well I was against him even before the vote ... but many in Am/Cal miltiias get fooled.

I am not unbiased and never was saying I am neutral, but I am more lowsec dweller then a miltiia man now. Hans just ruined the chance to get someone to speak for the fragmented wildlands society (ie lowsec).

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jjohnpaul xvii Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 123	#26 - 2012-12-17 10:04:50 UTC 1 Capitol One wrote: Scruffy looking nerfherders! Who's scruffy looking?

Mackies Raiders Wild Geese. 63
KiithSoban Mackies Raiders Wild Geese. Likes received: 63	#27 - 2012-12-17 18:16:40 UTC 2 Let the farmers come. Pirates like me will feed off them. We kill either side with no remorse. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=537781&m=12&y=2012 I want to see logi appear on killmails! (by just repping) See CSM "reasonable things"

X Gallentius

Black Eagle1

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#28 - 2012-12-17 19:25:14 UTC

Tier System = CCP, not Hans. Tier system with massive boosts was put into FW to shake things up. As CCP Soundwave said "It is not meant to be balanced" - or something like that.

The overall effect of the FW boost has been a significant increase in the population of low sec. Not only are there more corporations joining FW, there are more pirates living in low sec now as well. There are STILL more fights and more kills now than before the FW expansion hit in May.

The tier system is borked, but whatever. Deal with it. If you don't want to be part of FW, then leave. The new gate aggression mechanics were designed for you anyways.

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Dzajic Likes received: 150	#29 - 2012-12-18 00:15:08 UTC 1 KiithSoban wrote: Let the farmers come. Pirates like me will feed off them. We kill either side with no remorse. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=537781&m=12&y=2012 Links, implants? Because if you are doing it in fit shown without any "invisible to KB" help... GG sir GG. You make Atron look op.

Mutnin

SQUIDS.

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#30 - 2012-12-20 08:36:40 UTC | Edited by: Mutnin

Dzajic wrote:

KiithSoban wrote:

Let the farmers come. Pirates like me will feed off them. We kill either side with no remorse.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=537781&m=12&y=2012

Links, implants?

Because if you are doing it in fit shown without any "invisible to KB" help... GG sir GG. You make Atron look op.

lol the atron is OP now.. It's just about as good as the Navy Comet when set up to kite. Just doesn't get the drones.

Ministry of War Amarr Empire 205
von Khan Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 205	#31 - 2012-12-25 21:49:22 UTC \| Edited by: von Khan 1 [In the throne room, CCP is watching the TLF and FDU fleet attack the 24th from the huge throne room window] As you can see, my young Developer, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL farming horde! [the Elder hits the comlink switch on his throne] Farm at will, Commander! von Khan

ALUCARD 1208

Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.

Sedition.

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#32 - 2012-12-25 22:37:25 UTC

Dzajic wrote:

KiithSoban wrote:

Let the farmers come. Pirates like me will feed off them. We kill either side with no remorse.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=537781&m=12&y=2012

Links, implants?

Because if you are doing it in fit shown without any "invisible to KB" help... GG sir GG. You make Atron look op.

we have tested kilth for banned substances and boosts and hes clean ;)

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA

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Ningishzida Proxima Fleet Systems Likes received: 7	#33 - 2012-12-25 22:38:29 UTC 1 Now, where are the keys to my space tractor. There's ploughing to be done.

Hoplite Brigade Ushra'Khan 380
Meditril Hoplite Brigade Ushra'Khan Likes received: 380	#34 - 2012-12-26 07:26:36 UTC 1 Thomas Gore wrote: I support removing all PvE elements from FW. Pronto. Simply NO! PVE elements provide targets, it works as intended. If anything should be changed then the possibility to sneak in cloaked into a mission/plex should be enabled again. With luck and patience it was a nice way to kill those mission runners flying StealthBombers etc.