EVE General Discussion

O'k yes High Sec Industry is 10 x easier then Low or Null Industry operations.

Fact you can't just warp into a high sec systems and start blowing up another Corp's / Alliance's PoS with a fleet of Dreads, Carriers, and Super Carriers with out a Active War Dec, and well you can not fly the instant popping Birds of Prey either in High Sec.

As far as High Sec Mining Goes, Does not matter if they Nerf Ore Yields by 50% less. The Refine into Mins = the Isk.
So if they did nerf it Striving Industry players in High Sec would just add one more account and one more Hulk to their fleet to make up the balance lost. As it is now 1 hulk = 200 mil Isk a day +/- Mineral Value in Potential Profits.

The reason why so many Industry folks remain in High Sec is it does not take a Massive group to Protect its daily activities.

No one likes loosing ships No matter where you play EVE a loss of a ship is like loosing your best friend. Yeah its replaceable, but ya hate it.

Null Sec / Low Sec was designed for the PVP style players. Yes there is great amounts of Better Mineral yielding ORE in Null Sec.
Trust us We know it.

But having to PoS up and hault operations at any given time Sucks. So why deal with it, when you do not have to?

Most of us have Back Up Fleets for when War Dec's Occur.

High Sec Operations can come to a crashing hault when under a war dec. So most of us are Solo Pilots operating our own Corps and running Multiple accounts.

You Choose to move to Null Sec knowing the limitations of what you are getting yourself into.

Low / Null Sec means willing to PVP, means knowing you are a open target that at any time does not require a war dec to have your ass handed to you.

Nerfing high sec won't make me quit playing EVE it will just give me X Y Z reasons to start more accounts to keep the ISK flow going.

No, the problem is that the game mechanics don't allow for empire building on a scale that even remotely comes close to providing the facilities and expedience offered by highsec. Until they allow for that, the alliances should remember that they are not — and never can be — empires.

…and they also chose highsec because the lack of limitations, and that's where the entire problem lies: the supposedly player-run areas are more limited in what players can do than the NPC-run ones. It really should be the other way around so that they can choose to actually, fully move to null sec.

No, but it will mean that it becomes worth-while to build something that's better than what highsec has to offer so that there is something to steam towards.

The benchmark highsec offers is simply far too high in terms of availability and ease of use. And giving people the means to build an empire that is even better than what highsec currently offers will have some not entirely positive consequences for the economy at large.

It's not stupid. It's just economy.

Utterly wrong.

It will simply cause more people of this "empire" that wonders why people wont go there; to set up more gate camps than they already have.




It's the empires that need to change, not a high sec that needs nerfing.

Oh, cool.... another high/low/nul thread to post my joke in

I've got a joke I've been working on today. Here goes, alright?

Three capsuleers are on their way to prison. They are each allowed to take one item with them to help them occupy their time while incarcerated. One is from high sec, one from low, and one from nul. On the shuttle to the prison, the high seccer turns to the low seccer and asks, "So, what did you bring?"

The low seccer pulls out a box of spray paints and states that he intends to graffiti anything he can. He wants to become the "Grandma Moses of Jail". Then he asks the high seccer, "What did you bring?"

The high seccer pulls out a deck of cards and grins and says, "I brought cards. I can play poker, solitaire, gin, and any number of games."

"You *****," the low seccer announces, "I'm gonna paint your cards, too."

"Oh very mature," says the high seccer, "I bet you wouldn't, not without a whole bunch of people holding me down. You low seccers are all the same - can't hack a fair fight."

The nul seccer was sitting quietly aside, grinning to himself. The other two took notice and asked, "Why are you so smug? What did you bring?"

The guy pulled out a box of tampons and smiles. He says, "I brought these."

The other two are puzzled and ask, "What can you do with those?"

He grinned and pointed to the box and said, "Well according to the box, I can go horseback riding, swimming, roller-skating...."

so i see you are a strugling comedian...

I see you are a struggling troll with no sense of humour.

Yep, in every way indeed.

No, they do not.

Compelling evidence. After all, that must be why the problem I'm describing is the one that's slated to be fixed, and the one you're describing isn't (unless you plan on getting your hands on some prescription anti-hallucinogens).

The fact remains: alliances can't be empires because the game does not allow them to be. Even if they could, the benchmark of highsec is far too high to allow for a balanced game. At no point does “why don't we have targets?” come into it — the targets will be the same as always: nullseccers.

Yes they do. Ask to join their not-empires, and they will let you.