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everyone can agree eve needs a good fixing and i have the list.

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Mirima Thurander
#1 - 2012-12-16 20:01:30 UTC
Trolls and flame posts are unwelcome here, posts that are welcome are added things that if changed and improved or nurfed would make for a better EVE, that will still be here in 10 more years.

Eve being fixed involves

Nurfing high sec

Nurfing moon poo

Nurfing local

Buffing individual ISK production in null/low sec to support taxes from there corps/alliances.

Moving ALL production. To low sec/null

Adding ring mining

Introducing small holdings.

Adding a unique opportunity for scouting in a local less eve.

Removing or severely nurfing titan bridges.

Adding a nomadic stile option to the game

Finding a way to allow people to dock with titans and SCs.

The new and improvised modular POS system.

Destruct able out posts.

Destructable gates and buildable gates with the ability to move between gate less systems.

High sec being cut into rejoins split by low sec, with ships needing mins from each rejoin to be built.

And after all that eve is fixed.


Now I know you all don't want to admit it and yes that's ALOT of change and knowing CCP that's at least 15 years of non stop development.

Ccps them self have suggest that many of these ideas are needed but only get hate from people saying it BREAKS there eve, and I just wanted to say eves not growing like it should be( see all most no growth on a meaningfull scale) and that's a problem these changes would be in the name of having a eve to play 20 years from now.

So I'm asking would u rather have YOUREVE for another 2 or 3 years or have EVE forever?

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Mr Pragmatic
#2 - 2012-12-16 20:04:26 UTC
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#3 - 2012-12-16 20:12:44 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
So I'm asking would u rather have YOUREVE for another 2 or 3 years or have EVE forever?

Heh heh.... oh my, I'd like to continue afk minng forever, really. Why? No clue.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#4 - 2012-12-16 20:13:16 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:


Nurfing high sec No

Nurfing moon poo No

Nurfing local No

Buffing individual ISK production in null/low sec to support taxes from there corps/alliances.Maybe

Moving ALL production. To low sec/null No

Adding ring mining Up for discussion

Introducing small holdings. No

Adding a unique opportunity for scouting in a local less eve.Removing Local is fine as long as CONCORD goes with it.

Removing or severely nurfing titan bridges. Up for discussion

Adding a nomadic stile option to the game No

Finding a way to allow people to dock with titans and SCs. Haha, No

The new and improvised modular POS system. Yes

Destruct able out posts. God yes.

Destructable gates and buildable gates with the ability to move between gate less systems.Right, some people watched too much Clear Skies.

High sec being cut into rejoins split by low sec, with ships needing mins from each rejoin to be built.What the hell are you even saying here?




Also, use a Spell-Checker before posting
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-12-16 20:14:43 UTC
No
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Trolls and flame posts are unwelcome here
Then why did you post?
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#6 - 2012-12-16 20:19:02 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.


The current Risk Vs Reward is broken in EvE.

The Tears Must Flow
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-16 20:19:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Trolls and flame posts are unwelcome here
Then why did you post?



I have agree with Tippia on this one.
Hard to believe I know, but a list like that in a single thread, not going to end well and most of them are not even related.
You have zero chance of getting any sort of productive discussion out of it either.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#8 - 2012-12-16 20:20:42 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Trolls and flame posts are unwelcome here
Then why did you post?


Was about to ask the same thing. OP is a collection of a bunch of ideas already discussed in other threads, except rephrased with bad spelling and pretense of originality.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Mr Pragmatic
#9 - 2012-12-16 20:23:40 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.


The current Risk Vs Reward is broken in EvE.


How?

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2012-12-16 20:28:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Trolls and flame posts are unwelcome here
Then why did you post?


Was about to ask the same thing. OP is a collection of a bunch of ideas already discussed in other threads, except rephrased with bad spelling and pretense of originality.

Bad spelling really makes GD angry. And you don't want the forumbears to maul you.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-16 20:33:34 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.

Fan Fest Presentation on the Eve Economy

Important bits start about 4 mins in (as far as "where people live").

Gotta remember, these are just "snapshots" of where logged in characters are *AT*, when the snapshot was taken. This is *NOT* a census of "PLAYERS".

Big difference.

Also keeping in mind that WH/Low-Sec/Null-sec players are more likely to have alts than "pure" hi-sec players (while acknowledging that *some* hi-sec players are uber-industrialists with lots of accounts/alts) and it becomes clear that maybe "hi-sec" has the population it has for more than just one or two *simple* reasons...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Mr Pragmatic
#12 - 2012-12-16 20:39:37 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.

Fan Fest Presentation on the Eve Economy

Important bits start about 4 mins in (as far as "where people live").

Gotta remember, these are just "snapshots" of where logged in characters are *AT*, when the snapshot was taken. This is *NOT* a census of "PLAYERS".

Big difference.

Also keeping in mind that WH/Low-Sec/Null-sec players are more likely to have alts than "pure" hi-sec players (while acknowledging that *some* hi-sec players are uber-industrialists with lots of accounts/alts) and it becomes clear that maybe "hi-sec" has the population it has for more than just one or two *simple* reasons...


so how is nerfing hi sec the answer....someone explain that to me.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2012-12-16 20:43:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
so how is nerfing hi sec the answer....someone explain that to me.
Because in order to buff everything else to the point where it's relatively worthwhile to be there, and doing so without breaking the economy completely, the benchmark for “relatively worthwhile” has to come down.
Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-16 20:46:04 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.

Fan Fest Presentation on the Eve Economy

Important bits start about 4 mins in (as far as "where people live").

Gotta remember, these are just "snapshots" of where logged in characters are *AT*, when the snapshot was taken. This is *NOT* a census of "PLAYERS".

Big difference.

Also keeping in mind that WH/Low-Sec/Null-sec players are more likely to have alts than "pure" hi-sec players (while acknowledging that *some* hi-sec players are uber-industrialists with lots of accounts/alts) and it becomes clear that maybe "hi-sec" has the population it has for more than just one or two *simple* reasons...


You completely missed the Q&A at the end where someone asked that same question and they used the average time spent in X space to determine where you dwelled.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#15 - 2012-12-16 20:47:23 UTC
is nurf a mutated smurf?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Lysa Riay
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-12-16 20:47:39 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
T...

So I'm asking would u rather have EVE for another 2 or 3 years or have NOEVE forever after?


There, fixed the point of your post for you...

Could Klang take the (now rotting) pizzas & the launcher out as they leave the building plz.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#17 - 2012-12-16 20:52:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Trolls and flame posts are unwelcome here
Then why did you post?


Was about to ask the same thing. OP is a collection of a bunch of ideas already discussed in other threads, except rephrased with bad spelling and pretense of originality.

Bad spelling really makes GD angry. And you don't want the forumbears to mul you.

Rawr. Fear me.


It is rather that OP does not provide any new outlook on anything, instead rehashing a huge amount of controversial topics all at once, with poor eloquence to boot. It's sawed-off shotgun trolling mode.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-12-16 20:53:12 UTC
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Nurfing high sec...

No, just no...Just stop. I'm not even trolling. Please...Explain why nerfing the highest player base in the game will "fix" eve.

Fan Fest Presentation on the Eve Economy

Important bits start about 4 mins in (as far as "where people live").

Gotta remember, these are just "snapshots" of where logged in characters are *AT*, when the snapshot was taken. This is *NOT* a census of "PLAYERS".

Big difference.

Also keeping in mind that WH/Low-Sec/Null-sec players are more likely to have alts than "pure" hi-sec players (while acknowledging that *some* hi-sec players are uber-industrialists with lots of accounts/alts) and it becomes clear that maybe "hi-sec" has the population it has for more than just one or two *simple* reasons...


You completely missed the Q&A at the end where someone asked that same question and they used the average time spent in X space to determine where you dwelled.

So (lets use an example) a null-sec industrialist has his hi-sec alt manufacturing for him - that makes the hi-sec alt a "hi-sec'er"?

Shocked

No..... very much no.....

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#19 - 2012-12-16 20:56:57 UTC
Lysa Riay wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
T...

So I'm asking would u rather have EVE for another 2 or 3 years or have NOEVE forever after?

There, fixed the point of your post for you...

EVE... eve is dying, isn't it?

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-12-16 21:29:40 UTC
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