EVE New Citizens Q&A

so i understand from the Rookie Help channel that mining is a great way to get the early steady stream of income (mining scrodite right?). but i don't grasp the concept of... what's next and how to get there?

1) people recommended getting into industry but i looked at the ISK required and i fainted, i don't even have the money for the skillbooks lol

2) people also recommended getting to pvp but how? all i see are stories of people getting ganked or blown up. how should i fit my ship? or, simply... what ship? i see there my race has like 6 frigates and the description really doesn't tell me much about what they do differently... drones/missle/turret, which one is suitable?

3) i read about people get crazy money from salvaging, but where do i find those ship/wreck to salvage?

4) is there a corp/coach/channel where i can get some GENUINELY HELPFUL advises from? instead of some malicious links trying to keylog me....

any advice would be greatly appreciated

4. You can get answers here, and you can use google to search through the official Evelopedia Wiki. We can also point you to more specific guides based on your questions.

As a newbie, your primary need right now is a few million ISK, so that you can buy those skill books and not lose training time. You also need to learn the basics of the game, and that's done through the tutorials, asking questions, etc. Mining in the mining frigate with a couple Miner I lasers can get you a few million ISK, and you can also use the time to read up on the game and ask questions.

3. Wrecks are created by mission-runners, or by yourself if you run PVE missions. Missions can be an ok source of income, a bit better than mining (once you get to higher levels). If you're looking to salvage other people's wrecks, you can see if anybody's offering to let you get their wrecks, or you can use probes to scan them out and go to the mission pockets where they are. And take their wrecks, which they may not like.

1. Industry is complicated. It's also sometimes used as a broad term for "everything else other than combat". Mining, Trading, Manufacture, Research. Competition is fierce, sometimes a lot of ISK is required to start, and at the very least you need to understand the game better before you can be successful. I would recommend leaving it for later.

2. PVP, there are all sorts of PVP, it's hard to explain all of it in a short paragraph. The basic idea is, you spend a lot of time preparing your ship for a certain type of fight (suicide attack, small group fights against war enemies, piracy, larger fleet battles, etc.) and then you (and your friends) go looking for said targets, and do whatever you can to force the situation to fit your plan and fittings rather than the enemy's plan and fittings.

Newbies with few skills are often asked initially to "tackle", as part of a fleet. Which means you jump into a faster or combat frigate and you make sure to install a Warp Disruptor or Warp Scrambler, and an Afterburner and Webifier. Your job is to prevent the target from warping away and/or moving towards the gate to escape, and to hold it there until the DPS arrives.

Once you get more ships and some skills, another role that opens up is DPS, but you need to understand how to tank your ship for PVP, how to maximize your damage, fleet functions / what the fleet commander is talking about with those short / acronym orders, etc.

Then when you've got even more skills, you can aim for some of the specific-role Tech 2 ships, such as Interdictors or Recons or Logistics, and you can read about those in the evelopedia.

For right now, I would recommend:

1. Do the tutorial and do the missions for the Career Agents that the tutorial sends you to. You'll be given a bunch of ships, a whole bunch of skills, and 2-4 million ISK if you sell all the extra stuff you don't need.

2. Get a mining frigate (it's called Venture on the market), fit it with a couple Miner lasers, and mine some Scordite. For a little bit. You should be able to gather 5-10 more million in a couple-3 days.

3. Read up on ships, how the ship slots work, how to armor tank, shield tank, what the various weapons are, etc. Figure out what you'd be interested in, and read up or ask questions about that.

4. Consider joining a corp that matches what you want to do. You want a good corp, so the process of searching for one isn't super-easy. But a good corp makes the game a lot better than solo, because the biggest issue in this game is you need to provide your own goals, and corpmates can do that for you via organized ops, pvp roams, goals that the corp has, etc.

You can make isk with almost any aspect of EVE, as long as you're GOOD at it. So instead of doing the "what makes the most cash" routine you should probably try to figure out what you LIKE doing or what you would like to be doing if there were no limitations in EVE. Whatever amazingly weird and odd idea you may come up with, you'll be surprised that there's an equivalent that actually exists within the game.

So, find something you like doing or find interesting, strive to get GOOD at it (knowledge wise) and you'll do just fine. Don't do stuff because it makes you money, do stuff because you like doing it.

If you are going to mine, don't listen to people that tell you 'Min ore X', they can easily be wrong, misguided or out of date. Check for yourself which ores are the most profitable to mine (don't look at the price per unit, mining lasers pull a fixed volume of ore per cycle, not a fixed quantity)

Check this site: http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore

i just find out i have to kill pirates to create salvage wrecks X_X

now... wait still i have the skills and ships to get the salvage :(

Thanks everyone for your advices!

I realize that all of these questions have been answered already. I thought I would briefly add my perspective, because some of the answers have been good and some have been fairly poor. It is up to you to decide who knows what they are talking about and who does not.

1. You will find that your income potential scales up quite rapidly in this game. If the pricetag seems too high, do something else for a bit and come back to it in a few weeks.

2. PvP in it's various forms is what EVE is all about. Some would say that it is the only worthwhile activity in the game. There is absolutely no reason why you can't get started with PvP on day 1 if that is what you want, and to have a reasonable expectation of success. The mistake most new people make is to assume that doing PvP means to put some guns on their ship and go out alone in lowsec looking for somebody to shoot. While that can be fun and educational, it is also a recipe for failure.

The way to do it is to join a Corp that accepts new players and has a ship replacement program, so you don't have to worry about the pricetag. You want to be making your fist efforts to do PvP in a fleet, with people who have some idea what they are doing. You will be asked to either tackle the enemy in a fast ship, or to do some form of EWAR, both are roles which can be trained into within hours of creating your character.

3. Salvaging is fine money. When I started I felt like salvaging my own level 1 and 2 security missions felt like I was making a lot of money, though it was small beans in the grand scheme of things. If you want to feel rich very early, join a Corp (see answer 2 above) and find a corpmate running level 4 security missions who doesn't mind you following them around.

4. There are many. I could refer you to several off the top of my head, but I am told it is forbidden in this forum. Make a little effort and you will find a good Corp. The important thing is to get in a player Corp ASAP. You aren't really playing EVE if you are playing it alone. You can always change Corp later if it isn't a good fit.

As a new player you main source of income is mining and missions. PvP as a reliable source of income is like trying to feed your family by gambling in a casino. For beginners its just russian roulette.

I recommend to do the advanced tutorials , you will get a lot of frigates, two haulers and a destroyer as well as the basic skillbooks and some millions in the end, know how to sustain yourself by missioning and mining AND have a clue about several other topics.

Afterwards look for some newbie friendly corp or just look out an "educational alliance" like EvE-Uni. Do NOT pay anything to join somewhere!

Within a few weeks, maybe a month or so at most, 3 mil will be pocket change. Still, you don't necessarily need that skill immediately as an industrialist. It's damn handy, you'll probably want it sooner rather than later, but you don't need it immediately.

Well.

Technically, advertising a corp (or your own corp) is forbidden.

Giving a summary of different corporations isn't advertising a particular corp. It's showing options...
I've suggested RvB and E-Uni many times in the past. I leave the real recruitment up to them, I only share the knowledge that those corporations exist.

What I want to add about how to search for a corp is an older forum thread found here.

It is (so far) the best guide on how to find a corp in EVE.