Skill Discussions

10-4. But to train any Racial Cruiser at all requires Racial Frigate L4 as a prerequisite. So in order to gain the most "free skills" as possible during the changeover it appears as if the ideal set would be;

Battlecruisers L5
Destroyers L5

Amarr Frigate L4
Amarr Cruiser L3
Caldari Frigate L4
Caldari Cruiser L3
Gallente Frigate L4
Gallente Cruiser L3
Minmatar Frigate L4
Minmatar Cruiser L3


And then after changeover bam, you end up with all (8) New skills and millions of skill points free;

Amarr Battlecruiser L5
Caldari Battlecruiser L5
Gallente Battlecruiser L5
Minmatar Battlecruiser L5
Amarr Destroyer L5
Caldari Destroyer L5
Gallente Destroyer L5
Minmatar Destroyer L5

Thus bypassing over 120 days of training and picking up 7-14 million SP?



Correct?

I think the point of concern is will there be a specific date given or notice regarding the change due to a scenario such as :


New player,

Gets frig 4 for 1 race, gets cruiser (say to 4 for that race) then decides to train BC.

If that new player is sitting there training BC V and is like 1 day away then bam skill change hits. they've lost 20ish days of training.

Sure they were able to fly a BC at skill 4 for the race they selected, and they still can, but now they are set back the entire skill train of V, vs being at V the next day. That could be pretty discouraging to a player only a month or few old.


/disclaimer

of course I'm an alt

If you trained Destroyers and Battlecruisers to V you get 6.144.000 SP free.

Don´t forget to update your clone!

Why would they do that? It's not as if Cruisers 5 or Frigate 5 is suddenly going to be made useless or removed.

So does anyone seriously think we are going to get only a few days notice? Do you really think they are going to release the newly rebalanced BC's without at least some testing on the test servers?

It actually is free SP when you get a few million more than you had the day before for nothing. Expensive clones aren't a concern for me because I'm not in the habit of wanting to get podded rather than fly home.

And don't forget that this opens some players up for consideration for the corps that have a minimum SP requirement.

They said somewhere that they'll be giving full skills only. If you start training BC5 now, you'll still make it, the change is unlikely to happen in early january.

Thanks for the link! I just read through 49 pages of posts!

For those who would rather read these two pages All I can say is that this thread has the math figured out.
As to the timeline there is nothing official announced. People seem to think it will be APPROXIMATELY 2 months after November 6.
Other people keep saying "Spring"
Some people say sometime in January.

All Fozzie said was that it would be done after the rebalancing of the destroyers and battle cruisers. I personally read that to mean that there will be one patch rolled out that will balance the ships, and then a second patch that will be rolled out that seperates the skills into races. I am only speculating though. He could very simply mean that he will get to programming it after he finishes balancing the ships and it will be rolled out in one patch.

As for what happens if you have Battlecruisers or destroyers partially trained to V or between levels there is no discussion as to what happens to those "spare change" points. The skills will be given in flat levels.

I personally have all of these trained up to the appropriate levels with the exception of battlecruisers. I am training it to V now and will finish on January 8. So that is my concern. If I get 99% done and they roll out the new skillbooks on January 7th then I would HOPE that I would get all racial battlecruisers skills at level 4, and I would be refunded the 99% "spare change." which I could then apply to ONE of the racial battlecruiser skills.

I would still be sad that I just barely missed 3 extra skills at level 5, but at least I wouldn't feel like I lost the time.

Again, all this is speculation.

Here is the reason NOT to train it. Are you ready? This is what only a couple people on this thread are understanding:
If I am going to spend 20 days training a skill and I don't make the deadline and I lose those skill points then I would rather not train battlecruiser to 5 and use those 20 days of skillpoints on something that will not be taken away from me.

That's why people are freaking out about wanting to know when the date of the change is. It's a lot of if's, but thats the point. This is not being answered by the Devs and so people do not know how to proceed in the most efficient way possible.