Ships & Modules

I came upon one of these 500 dps blaster daredevils recently, and I'm racking my brain trying to come up with a 1v1 frigate counter for this imbalanced monster.. This is for Novice FW sites, so dessy/T2 counters are not useful. From the Retribution patch notes...



I don't know exactly what the DD was flying, but this fit seems possible...



1) I can't find another frigate that can put out (or tank) 500 dps at any range.

2) With the Daredevil's web effectiveness bonus, web-to-web you lose

3) warp scramming him outside of web-range (and his weapon range) seems like an option. Is it possible/practical to engage and keep him inside the gap between faction-web (15k) and faction-scram (30k) ? Seems it would require AB and high agility so you could 'keep at 20k' and allow the keep-at mechanics to do the work. You'd also need a ship with faster AB boosted speed than the daredevil (since he's going to warp scram you too) and which can dps from 20k, which doesn't leave many options.

AB+scram speed+missile fit Claw?

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/64492/what-is-the-fastest-frigate-in-eve-after-fittings-and-skills

4) just run when you see a daredevil?

5) fit your own blaster DD and be careful not to get that costly fit popped by a gang?

A dual MASB hawk would absolutely trounce that fit without even crystals or blue pill. Turn on both boosters, overheat launchers, and scoop the shiny loot. Don't think about these things just in terms of, "well this ship does the most damage". Look at the type of damage it does. Blasters do a combination of kinetic and thermal, so find a race with good T2 resists for those (like the hawk).

Alternatively, I'd wager a shield gank algos could brawl that thing down while hardly breaking a sweat, but it's not a frigate.

What exactly will an OGB help him with here? People talk about OGBs as if they're some magical instawin button. FIrst of all, it's very easy to detect an OGB. Second of all, both my suggestion and Invocat's suggestion would still be able to beat that daredevil.

There is no tank on that thing. Alpha him with artys when he's appraching. A Wolf will do the trick nicely.

If you look at the ehp vs kin/therm the enyo ends up having even more ehp than you've suggested. As you've stated, the enyo can easily kill a daredevil.

The DD has been top of the frigate pile since the pirate revamp; it has excellent slot layout, great bonuses and awesome characteristics in general. They can be countered but you have to bring your a-game even against mediocre pilots .. they are as (or more) powerful than pre-adjustment Dramiels but have always been 'balanced' due to having to commit and being subject to limitations shared by all hybrid platforms.

Neut it, TD it and/or attempt to jam it. Do not rely on webs (even dual) as the recent T2 ammo changes made blasters an effective weapon in (almost) the entire engagement sphere of 10km.

Boosters can lower signature, increase maneuverability, augment tank, harden against ECM but most devastating with regards to the topic at hand: they can increase web/scram range by a whopping 40% .. add heat and you are looking at a 90% web with close to 20km range.

Magic instawin button, silver bullet .. call it what you will, fact is that if other side has it and you do not then every fight requires a Herculean effort.

arty thrasher will probably volley it.
or a griffin if you want a frig.

Really?

I have not had a problem with DD's since AF buff, in fact I have not even considered flying one since the AF buff.

My harpy has 2.5x the EHP, same DPS, much more range, half the price tag.

Same goes for most other AF's, the only thing that would truly have a problem with it 1v1 is a Jaguar due to the low DPS and lack luster resist profile to the damage being inflicted.

In fairness, Faction/Pirate frigates got nerfed into the ground for solo nullsec, the only real reason to fly them is for some absurd challenge, as if being blobbed was not bad enough.

This thing has no tank and is pretty shiny.

Let the guy commits to the fight in a gallente af, and you will melt him.
I personally love the ishkur in that regard as the drones will eat him real quick.

Is this in relation to FW? That is the one place where T2 frigates and destroyers can not reach inside novice plexes. DD are only competing with other faction an T1 frigates.