Warfare & Tactics

6/10. Good effort, really.

Well your not a farmer thats for sure, dont know about you but i have found many farmers since the patch

Can I be Michael Corleone?

Farmers will find a way to farm regardless...

+1

I guess there isnt many Star Wars fans here....try this

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followed by a ROLL-UP, which crawls into infinity.]]

a long long time in a far away galaxy......

Farming hordes were never faction specific, nor were people who join FW purely for the ISK. People need get over their factional pride and realize this. When a group of farmers on Caldari who are only in FW to farm switch sides to farm another profitable militia, its easy to pull the propaganda card and say that the Caldari's problem is that Caldari militia pilots aren't dedicated like the Gallente or whoever's side they join to keep the farming going, but its asinine.

Is it still a truthful statement? Perhaps, in the context of large numbers of Caldari pilots who also push the warzone indeed may be following the ISK around, but its extremely misleading.

In fact, I know a group that is planning on joining Gallente because they have lots of newbros and joining Gallente means a higher level of self-sustainability. The decision is a mostly economic one, and not one of factional loyalty, yet in the context of discussing game mechanics the resolve and loyalty always overshadows any analysis of the core mechanics. I'm sure while they are in Gallente and happily farming and pewing away the mood will propaganda will be that the Gallente are winning because their players are more dedicated, and if they become unprofitable and those groups leave the propaganda will be that the Gallente are only in it for the ISK and have no factional loyalty.

My above comments aren't a statement against the Caldari or Gallente in particular, just using them as an example since thats the current situation.

In the end, its unfortunate that we didn't spend more time talking about what extrinsic CCP given reasons players have to join and stay involved in a particular faction, during Inferno, since its unlikely we'll recieve much more love for our feature in the future. Has this kind of factional division and propaganda existed since FW was created? Yes, probably. Its probably also why FW was a largely irrelevant feature in the eyes of the rest of EVE for the many years it's been around, until Inferno. Something to consider.

The whole system feels like unless you're on 8+ hours a day you'll log on to some crisis going on. I personally hate leaving a system stable, logging out for a whole 14 hours, and coming back to 18% contested. If it is LNa or Iron Oxide launching an offensive - then I need to get a fleet together and go deal with it. But to have casual farmers move it that much in wolves with 5 WCS...... That is crap.

Remove the tier system and farmers will go ... Farmers here mostly because it is easy for them to get cheap stuff in higher tiers. And yes they are massively disbalancing normal plexing.

Depending on what post you read from Hans ccp either listened to him at an unprecedented level or not at all. But it was clear that he changed his position on what he was telling ccp and after he changed his position ccp did what he advocated.

During his campaign and at the beginning he was very strong that there needed to be economic balance. But later he argued the winning side was being "punished for winning too much" and pushed through the retribution system which had even fewer economic balances. When questioned about this he got pretty defensive and refused to be reasonable. (see the features and ideas discussions on I hubs) After he was pushed he admited he didn't think there needed to be any economic balance.

After inferno everyone was space rich from farmign the stupid system and so the economic imbalance is still not that big of a deal. But over time as the rich pilots leave faction war and new poorer pilots keep joining you will see that which ever side is winning will tend to keep getting new pilots and the losing side will fade.




As far as history, we never really used to complain that one side or the other was farming plexes because there was absolutely no pay in it other than tags. All the old guard plexers were either in it for roleplay, bragging rights, or pvp. There of course has always been the criticism that plexing is most effectively done as a pve activity, but it wasn't an issue with farming. Sure missions were farmed but that never effected occupancy.