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I have flown with almost every incursion community available. Lately I find that when I look for fleet I look at ISN first, and when they do not have anything happening, I choose to go do something else. A few of my reasons:

- I have yet to see people being trolled about their fits. The ISN community is helpful and respectful towards even the most terrible failfits. Officers spend time and effort to correct people.
- I have seen how ISN community gives mods and even ISK to help people cross that last bridge towards a good functional fit. I have seen where ISN Princess buys unsuitable ships off players to help them get into a decent ship. I have not seen this done anywhere else.
- I have seen where ISN members donate ISK to members of other communities when they lost their ships. And these pilots have never even flown with ISN.
- I have been in an ISN fleet where the other contested fleet warps off and abandon members inside the site. The ISN FC ordered the fleet inside and the ISN Logies saved that pilot.
- I have seen over and over how ISN leaders work hard to transfer knowledge and skill to new pilots. No trolling, no shouting, no rude comments. Leaders that lead and do it well.
- Some other communities claim loudly they have the best Logies in the game. In ISN fleets I have seen proof that ISN Logies are the best. I have yet to see them fail at catching late broadcasts. I myself lagged out once and did not see I was being shot. They caught it early and kept me alive. In another community in the same situation I lost a ship, and the comment from their Logies were "why are you in a pod?". At other well known communities the attitude is: if you don't broadcast or late broadcast your loss is your own fault and "broadcast once then die in silence". At ISN it is completely different, every effort is made to save your ship. You will earn yourself an F and a stern warning, but you still have your shiny ship.
- I have yet to see FC who's badge has gone to his head. I have yet to see or hear a FC that is rude to and belittles his fleet. I have yet to see a FC that claims he is "too good an FC". I still have to find one that is even slightly incompetent.

ISN are often called the "goons" of incursions. ISN is far from that. ISN wins contests, because they are good, and they work to be the best. Not half the fleet work hard and the other half leech, ISN fleet members all bring their cookies to the party. Because they want to.

So, if you want to be the best, and be rewarded for that, then fly with ISN. If you want to semi-AFK, fly cheap, and simply want to make a few mill quick in lazy mode, then don't fly with ISN.

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I mean really just look at the OP

Didn't profitability for incursions get nerfed down to carebear level?

ISN has been a great source of fun and income for me for a little while now. I wouldn't trade doing sites with these guys over anyone else, and here is why:

Yesterday, in an HQ fleet, we warped into a preloaded (TCRC?) site. The FC thought the site might be preloaded, so he went in first to get the agro so everyone else could enter the site relatively safely. Well, he didn't. I guess the NPCs decided I was a better looking target, and it took until I was ~50% into armor before the logis and spider tanking BSs were able to overcome the incoming DPS and save my ass. What does this show? 1) without the ISN required fittings, I would have been dead. 2) without awesome logis that know their stuff and don't wait for everyone else to go into the site first, I would have been dead. 3) Having "broadcast if yellow boxed" drilled into my head from the various FCs probably didn't hurt my chances . Getting a full room lock from a preloaded HQ site unexpectedly is no joke, yet I lived to fight another day (and the rest of that day). That was the first time my ship (a Mach BTW) had ever been into armor and I have flown many VGs and HQs with ISN.

So basically TL;DR: if you wanna lose your ship, fly elsewhere, because these guys wont let you if they can help it.





Before you spend a lot of money on a ship and rigs, defiantly join "ISN secondary" as Yimodo suggests. The requirements might seem steep at first, but you wont regret meeting them.

I wish you all would reconsider allowing the rattlesnake to join in.

Perfect dps rattlesnake pilot and I still have to deal with other communities.

Since the drone upgrades came out and you all moved up to assults seems like the RS tank using ecm would finally get some love.