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Have invention chances been lowered in Retribution?
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Yinmatook
Skilled Refugees
#1 - 2012-12-12 16:00:07 UTC
Hey,

Since Retribution was released, my invention jobs seem to be successful a lot less frequently. I used to do invention runs of 11 300 run NIS1 BPCs and get 4 to 6 successes. Since Retribution has been released, it seems that 2 to 4 successes (in 11 attempts) is the best I can do.

Am I just getting really unlucky with the random number generator or has the underlying math been changed?

Thanks for any insight!
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-12-12 16:10:02 UTC
this question is getting asked right after every single patch and so far the answer has always been "No".

I havent heard anything nor see a reason why they should do that

shar'ra phone home
Cap James Tkirk
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-12 16:19:02 UTC
random = random
patch nerf to inventions happens every patch dontcha know
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#4 - 2012-12-12 16:36:01 UTC
if they nerf invention chance once more it will be negative
Yinmatook
Skilled Refugees
#5 - 2012-12-12 16:58:54 UTC
Alberik wrote:
if they nerf invention chance once more it will be negative


That would be awesome! There are some lousy T2 BPCs available via contract where I'd love to get the T1 BPC out of it, so if the invention chance goes negative, I could do that right? Start with a T2 BPC and end up with the correct T1 BPC (and maybe a few Datacores for good measure)??? Shocked
Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#6 - 2012-12-12 18:29:59 UTC
I have the ability to run ten invention jobs. After the patch I was amused that out of the ten I did one afternoon I only managed to get a success on one of the ten, failed nine. I'm also eagerly awaiting the day when I win the lottery and manage a 10 out of 10 success streak. The closest I've come so far is eight out of ten.
Tierius Fro
Coronado's Cross
#7 - 2012-12-12 18:36:46 UTC
No upgrade is complete without a thread or two about this "nerf"

http://ridingevewormhole.blogspot.com/
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#8 - 2012-12-12 19:47:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Silly noob...

You forgot to make a sacrifice to BOB the EVE god of random numbers.

If you do not believe in BOB talk to any long time wormhole dweller. They will tell you how important it is to make regular sacrifices to BOB.

His reach extends well beyond W-space.

Self destruct a ship near the sun with a frozen corpse in the cargo hold. Traditionally sacrificing just a shuttle will bring a positive blessing. Rumor has it the more expensive or rare the ship the bigger blessing you will receive from BOB.

I heard a story that someone sacrificed a freighter with hundreds of frozen corpses in the cargo hold, which was followed by 20 successful invention attempts in a row.Shocked
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-12-13 00:08:49 UTC
ooo... I was thinking it was about time for me to make this thread if no one else did.

cause ya know, tradition, it is the season after all.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Ginger Barbarella
#10 - 2012-12-13 17:31:43 UTC
Ignoring the whole "Invention has been NERFED!!" that happens every time the server is rebooted, I've run 11 quick invention jobs today: Nova Rage Lights were 5 of 5 successes, and BCS II's were 5 of 6 successes.

Working fine here. P

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Grendaran
Celestial Tomb
#11 - 2012-12-13 19:30:38 UTC

90 Mackinaw Attempts no decryptor since 12/4 with 31 success

that is 34.44% success rate, which is what i expect

nothing changed

Have had a 30% Golem success rate on 20 attempts, also the expected ratio

you can map your invention history using EVE Meep tool
LordSpock
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-12-14 08:24:54 UTC
No issues here either. 5/10 cruisers (with -2ME datavore), guns going allright and ammo 7-8/10 few consequtive (lucky me Twisted)
News Group
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-14 20:12:32 UTC
Yes. It's nerfed. I've had one invention chance since retribution and I failed. Totaly nerfed.
leoplusma
Delfus Inc.
#14 - 2012-12-14 22:05:27 UTC
lol

indeed every patch we end up in this question somehow

but thats only because invention sucks bigtime as it is

;)

"chance in science" is not even a joke :p

i am sure ccp will one day come up with a great idea
that will (a) make invention worth skilling for
and (b) give justice back to universe aka t2 bpo current status ...

kisses

leo
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-12-14 22:31:21 UTC
leoplusma wrote:
lol
and (b) give justice back to universe aka t2 bpo current status ...

:yawn:
this argument also comes with every patch

shar'ra phone home
leoplusma
Delfus Inc.
#16 - 2012-12-14 22:36:22 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
leoplusma wrote:
lol
and (b) give justice back to universe aka t2 bpo current status ...

:yawn:
this argument also comes with every patch


but thats whats all about it !
repeating all the invention moaning cliches
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2012-12-16 01:07:18 UTC
If CCP did ever nerf the invention chance unannounced, everyone would immediately notice, and the flood of posting screams would break the Internet.

I guarantee it.

Believe me, you would know. And on Patch Day.

But I will say that the chance of someone creating this same thread has indeed increased with each successive expansion.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#18 - 2012-12-16 18:00:05 UTC
Yinmatook wrote:
Hey,

Since Retribution was released, my invention jobs seem to be successful a lot less frequently. I used to do invention runs of 11 300 run NIS1 BPCs and get 4 to 6 successes. Since Retribution has been released, it seems that 2 to 4 successes (in 11 attempts) is the best I can do.

Am I just getting really unlucky with the random number generator or has the underlying math been changed?

Thanks for any insight!


Every patch the % chance of invention is lowered so those holding T2 BPOs have increased profits.