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New Player Friendly : Require 15 Mil SP

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Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-12-12 05:04:59 UTC
yeah i have like..15 mil sp, been playing 6 months or so? 15 mil is "newish" for high class wormhole pilot...but no reason why you cant be a great pvper with just a couple mil SP.. still though, they should change that ****... i know how hard it is to find a good corp as a new player who is eager to learn. just keep at it. good luck
Ferahgo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-12-12 10:10:46 UTC
Ha I barely average 19 mill a year. And I find that more than fast enough in training. I'm willing to bet for OP as someone already stated, the Corp meant 1.5 million and accidentally added 1 zero
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#43 - 2012-12-12 15:05:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Factor in that different corps will have different definitions of new based on the theme of that corp.

For example, our corp does mining & industry. If I were to switch a PvP corp I'd be a "new" player. On the flipside, if someone were to come to my corp from someplace like Red vs Blue or something they'd probably be a "new" player to us regardless of how high their gunnery skills are. To us "new" simply means "Can't fly a Retriever yet." To a nullsec corp "new" might mean "Where's your Tengu, pleb?" A high-tech production corp doing lots of T2 stuff would most likely be using your science skills as a measuring stick. And so on.

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Choi Baedal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-12-12 16:19:31 UTC
Ferahgo wrote:
Ha I barely average 19 mill a year. And I find that more than fast enough in training. I'm willing to bet for OP as someone already stated, the Corp meant 1.5 million and accidentally added 1 zero


It was definitely 15 because others required 20 mil. I still think from my prospective that perhaps a few mil is acceptable but these insane 15-20 mil, I donno. The fact that they say minimum makes me think ts nonnegotiable. I have found some people to hang out with and a corp so I'm good on that front. Now for earning my chops and learning more about tactics.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-12-12 20:53:01 UTC
I can't stand sp requirements. Anyone can learn enough SP in say.... trading or mining, and have 30mil SP in that profession but then join a 30mil sp requirement corp when you actually in truth have maybe 5mil sp in the category you're wanting to depend on.

Worthless.

Best way to find a corp? Do what you like doing, you'll find some likeminded people. They will either invite you to corp, or you will like how/what they do things and you can apply through their corp logo when clicking "info" on them.

Or simply ask them. Forums are the way to replenish ranks, sure. But unless that's what you're looking for....

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-12-12 23:01:40 UTC
"New player frienldy" can be a misleading term. It often just means that the corp members are willing to train recruits. I have contacts in this game with 10's of millions of SP and 3 accounts that have less PVP experience then I do (about 6 months into the game myself) and another contact who started last month, who will gladly teach me things about scanning.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-12-12 23:01:53 UTC
"New player frienldy" can be a misleading term. It often just means that the corp members are willing to train recruits. I have contacts in this game with 10's of millions of SP and 3 accounts that have less PVP experience then I do (about 6 months into the game myself) and another contact who started last month, who will gladly teach me things about scanning.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-12-12 23:03:31 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
"New player frienldy" can be a misleading term. It often just means that the corp members are willing to train recruits. I have contacts in this game with 10's of millions of SP and 3 accounts that have less PVP experience then I do (about 6 months into the game myself) and another contact who started last month, who will gladly teach me things about scanning.


Exactly

New doesn't mean low SP.

New means "I don't have a clue what you are talking about, please teach me what you mean".

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#49 - 2012-12-13 04:44:30 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:
Being "new player friendly" means exactly that and as such a 15 mil SP minimum doesn't mesh with that statement. It does make sense to have a minimum SP, partially for security reasons and partially because someone who's been playing for 1-3 months shows more commitment than "some random" with 5 days played, because in a good corp every new player means an investment of effort.

Do note that many good corporations have a "show me your war face" kind of approach, they may have an SP limit for the standard riffraff but if a fresh recruit shows tenacity and the right attitude that may open doors beyond his SP count.


To join my corp, a player first has to spend time time as a hangers-on "secondary member", in the corp's Public chat channel, and participate in corp activities. They get help and advice, they get to know us, we get to know them. After anywhen from 3 weeks to 2 months, they get offered full membership and are allowed to join. Doesn't matter if they're 1 day old, or started playing in 2006.

(Also note that we're not currently recruiting.)
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-12-13 08:09:39 UTC
Choi Baedal wrote:
So with my 3 day account I've been searching for a corp who is New Player Friendly. Down in everyones description however it states you need 15 Mil SP or some other high number. Noticing I only have 97k SP I ask how long it takes to get 15 mil SP.

A year someone said.

Please remove the New Player Friendly from your corp!

How does one year of play equal New Player. I've only been playing for 3 days but I got a great gasp of everything. Right now it's all a matter of waiting for skill points it seems.
Congratulations! You've discovered that there are lots of idiots who play this game. Since this game punishes stupidity and rewards the clever and bold, you have an advantage. I suggest you use it.

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TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2012-12-13 16:29:51 UTC
Choi Baedal wrote:
So with my 3 day account I've been searching for a corp who is New Player Friendly. Down in everyones description however it states you need 15 Mil SP or some other high number. Noticing I only have 97k SP I ask how long it takes to get 15 mil SP.

A year someone said.

Please remove the New Player Friendly from your corp!

How does one year of play equal New Player. I've only been playing for 3 days but I got a great gasp of everything. Right now it's all a matter of waiting for skill points it seems.


If you have not played for at least one or two weeks there will be not many corps that consider taking you I guess

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Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#52 - 2012-12-14 10:30:41 UTC
I don't know.... I would definitely consider anyone who has been playing for less than a year a "new player". The corp you mentioned seems to be targeting new players which have been playing at least 6 months or so, which is perfectly consistent to me.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#53 - 2012-12-14 11:03:35 UTC
Wormholes and higher class wormholes is pretty much one of the only places where there is actually a need for sp min (or more specifically certain skills min.).

Most "good" corps have "sister corps" for training that takes in new players. If you can fly a bc somewhat ok fit you should be good to go (iirc a bc with t2 fit can almost be done in what... 2 months?)

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#54 - 2012-12-14 11:13:34 UTC
Choi Baedal wrote:
Ferahgo wrote:
Ha I barely average 19 mill a year. And I find that more than fast enough in training. I'm willing to bet for OP as someone already stated, the Corp meant 1.5 million and accidentally added 1 zero


It was definitely 15 because others required 20 mil. I still think from my prospective that perhaps a few mil is acceptable but these insane 15-20 mil, I donno. The fact that they say minimum makes me think ts nonnegotiable. I have found some people to hang out with and a corp so I'm good on that front. Now for earning my chops and learning more about tactics.


The SP requirements are almost invariably negotiable, but if they're specifying 15 mill, you'd need to do some pretty slick negotiating to get a 3-day character in.

Basically, you're doing the right thing now. If you spend the next 4-6 months being active as hell, getting lots of kills, learning how to look after yourself in hostile space and learning the many, many game mechanics EVE has then you'll be good to get into almost any corp. No one will give a damb about how you only have 11M SP instead of 15 or whatever.

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Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#55 - 2012-12-14 12:47:23 UTC
Choi Baedal wrote:
So with my 3 day account I've been searching for a corp who is New Player Friendly. Down in everyones description however it states you need 15 Mil SP or some other high number. Noticing I only have 97k SP I ask how long it takes to get 15 mil SP.

A year someone said.

Please remove the New Player Friendly from your corp!

How does one year of play equal New Player. I've only been playing for 3 days but I got a great gasp of everything. Right now it's all a matter of waiting for skill points it seems.


Just look at bit harder for a corp. There are plenty of corps in eve recruiting guys just like you to their ranks daily. New player friendly means different things to different people. What is a new player to me (after 4 years of playing eve) is going to be different than it is to someone who has been playing since the game started or who just started last year. Its all relative.

That being said... there are legitimate reasons why some corps want players with some skill points. I wont go into these here because i could spend all day listing them. It is enough to know that there are many corps that do not care at all. Find one of those.

A quick review of the corporation recruitment forum here will lead to many prospects for you i am sure. If you are hoping to join pvp oriented or pirate corps you may find it a bit more difficult with a 3 day character. Many high sec corps that do PVE and such really couldnt care a less how old your toon is.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-12-14 12:50:51 UTC
Disastro wrote:
Choi Baedal wrote:
So with my 3 day account I've been searching for a corp who is New Player Friendly. Down in everyones description however it states you need 15 Mil SP or some other high number. Noticing I only have 97k SP I ask how long it takes to get 15 mil SP.

A year someone said.

Please remove the New Player Friendly from your corp!

How does one year of play equal New Player. I've only been playing for 3 days but I got a great gasp of everything. Right now it's all a matter of waiting for skill points it seems.


Just look at bit harder for a corp. There are plenty of corps in eve recruiting guys just like you to their ranks daily.


Really?

Point me to a corp recruiting cocky basterds who think they know the mechanics of EVE after 3 days...


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Melkorus
The Nightcrow Tribe
#57 - 2012-12-14 18:36:00 UTC
15mil is not noob friendly... and SP requirement is simply stupid.

If they're PVP focused they should list ships and techs that they require, example: Must be able to fly a Battlecruiser with t2 guns and t2 armor/shield tanking. If they're exploration/mining/farming etc corp, then make a requirement for the ships/equipment you need.
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-12-17 08:22:34 UTC
Remember the corp you want to get in..

In 2 years, when you are in the OP for the final timer of there station, take a beer and grin a bit.

( been there, done that, the beer was good )

Until then , go eve-uni or other learning corp and -learn- the game.

The day you stop learning you become bittervet, the only way to prevent becomming a bittervet is doing new stuff and have new players around you.
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#59 - 2012-12-17 18:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ronix Aideron
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Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

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Starden Arnolles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-12-17 18:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Starden Arnolles
Maybe I am weird, but I do not want to rush into joining a corp. I am new as heck, and I want to know enough to make a great decision when I do join a corp. Right now I feel like it would be like asking the first girl I saw in elementary school to marry me.

Is there some disadvantage to just taking the time to learn as much as you can, and really know what you want before you sign on with someone?

Coming from WoW, where I was hardcore progression raiding (This game is so much better - I have learned that already), you would have to apply and show your stuff to get in, and then you might be replaced in a heartbeat if someone was better for your raid slot. Of course, there were thousands who would invite you unasked. And everything in between. But even in WoW you needed to develop and learn a bit before you could make a decent decision.

Personally, I would prefer to go slow, make the right decision, and spend the rest of my lengthy time here in that corp. I want stability in that respect. Am I missing something?

Why would any corp even want someone with only less than a week experience in the game?

What do most do?
Is it rush to join someone, anyone, at any cost, just get in ASAP?

I need to understand better why a good corp would even want a truly new player, what is in it for them?