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ETA on fixing missions?
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Corben Arctus
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#1 - 2012-12-11 11:41:01 UTC
After some testing, it appears that all L4 missions which had seperately triggered groups before now always give you full room aggro, regardless of range or if you're shooting them or not.

According to the devblog from september, I suppose this shouldn't happen:

"Q) Does this change things like spawns or range activation?
A) No. When the NPC decide to start hating you is still based on the individual mission."

The safest way to run L4s now appears to be with 2 battleships and 2 logis (might be overkill, but theoretically safest), at least for low SP scrubs like me. Which is not really worth it for the little isk, might as well do something interesting instead.

Now, I know that I read a dev post about this somewhere, but I just can't for the life of me remember where or find it again. So I apologize in advance if this post is redundant.

Did you change your mind and this is now intended behaviour for missions? Or is there a fix in the works? It's a bit unnerving to read patch notes day after day without anything about this issue in them, and you devs seem to be quite tight-lipped about the issue here in the missions forum.

Again, sorry if my forum search skills just suck. But a dev response would be greatly appreciated! Big smile
Julius Priscus
#2 - 2012-12-11 11:49:58 UTC
18 months
Melina Lin
Universal Frog
#3 - 2012-12-11 13:44:18 UTC
They maintain a thread with issues in Retribution here.

There is no mention of problems with mission AI, hence there is no ETA on a fix. CCP will collect solid data on the changes they have done to the AI and then decide if adjustments are actually required.
Corben Arctus
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#4 - 2012-12-11 15:30:31 UTC
Melina Lin wrote:

There is no mention of problems with mission AI, hence there is no ETA on a fix. CCP will collect solid data on the changes they have done to the AI and then decide if adjustments are actually required.


I've absolutely no issues with the new AI (in fact I like it), just with the fact that you can't aggro groups of npcs in missions independently from each other anymore, like in the old days.

Makes Mordu's Headhunters L4 impossible basically (just as an example).
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#5 - 2012-12-11 15:47:18 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2284045#post2284045

No idea when its getting fixed but would also like an update.

Not today spaghetti.
Corben Arctus
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#6 - 2012-12-12 13:37:02 UTC
Fixed.

Thank you very much. ;P
Helmut Khanid
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-12-13 02:49:01 UTC
ETA is ...
when enough people unsub that CCP realized it matter how bad they s****** the pooch, and take 15 minutes to roll out a patch.

Really - CCP is a business, Hilmar cares about ISK, not ISK, so that's what it will take.
Rengerel en Distel
#8 - 2012-12-13 03:37:28 UTC
Helmut Khanid wrote:
ETA is ...
when enough people unsub that CCP realized it matter how bad they s****** the pooch, and take 15 minutes to roll out a patch.

Really - CCP is a business, Hilmar cares about ISK, not ISK, so that's what it will take.

Except they fixed it, which the previous poster mentioned.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
starbelt stacy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-12-13 13:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: starbelt stacy
you obviously didnt get the memo like most other legit l4 mission runners.

CCP dont want solo players running level 4's and raking in the mountains of isk anymore Roll


you have to move to 0.0 and be a part of the blob / grief fest.


they nerfed level 4's cos we are the ones responsible for destroying the economy of eve nothing to do with anyone else just us bad mission runners apparently. Roll

there's always PLEX to buy at overinflated prices with real money to replace the lost / nerfed isk income.... its the CCP way Shocked
Ikshuki
Awoken Disintegration Fleet
#10 - 2012-12-13 19:29:49 UTC
starbelt stacy wrote:
you obviously didnt get the memo like most other legit l4 mission runners.

CCP dont want solo players running level 4's and raking in the mountains of isk anymore Roll


you have to move to 0.0 and be a part of the blob / grief fest.


they nerfed level 4's cos we are the ones responsible for destroying the economy of eve nothing to do with anyone else just us bad mission runners apparently. Roll

there's always PLEX to buy at overinflated prices with real money to replace the lost / nerfed isk income.... its the CCP way Shocked

yeah and who the hell does corp runs in L4s these days? if a corp is going to do PvE runs it'll be incursions, not bullshit L4s or L5s, if L4s wasn't intended to be soloable they shouldn've released the pirate faction ships