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What are some ships that need visual touch-ups?

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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#121 - 2012-12-12 10:17:52 UTC
Jacob Mordecai wrote:
Bring back old vargur.
At least its old solar panel wings...


NO

wumbo

Shajden
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-12-12 11:43:03 UTC
asymmetric ships can be beuitful but i dunno, something in my mind isnt just "right" when there is something obvious asymmetric :P

If i flew an omen all i would think off all day is like a dog running around with 1 leg missing :(


To which ships id like see a overhaul is, well ofc the moa, but tbh ive learned to identify this ship as just being a brutal design not focused on grace in space.

Rupture and Dominix some ppl mentioned aswell but even though they seem ugly, they serve the point of idea behind a drone ship.

As a caldari pilot my self though, ive yet to understand the vacuumer/spider look of the osprey :O
Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
#123 - 2012-12-12 13:19:13 UTC
Tempest and Rupture so much..

I refuse to even pilot the Tempest, its ugly as sin and there's too many things derived from it.

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Nukleanis
Falcon Advanced Industries
#124 - 2012-12-12 17:03:16 UTC
The open space at the front of the Arbitrator (and by extension, the Curse and Pilgrim) should be converted into a more obvious drone bay. After all, CCP did pretty well with the drone bays on the Algos.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#125 - 2012-12-12 17:58:34 UTC
Now that T1 frigs are viable and fun to play, I would appreciate a redesign of the bantam.

Nobody can look at this ship and say that everything is fine >_<

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Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#126 - 2012-12-12 18:05:12 UTC
Karrde Belarr wrote:
Berendas wrote:
Capitals need to be scaled up in size, they are far too visually underwhelming for their strength.


I agree with this and, oddly enough, I am of the opinion that there should be larger stations. I mean when was the last time you actually felt like Jita 4-4 was big enough to be the trade hub it seems? Shouldn't there be a feeling of awe you get as you warp up to it? How do all those ships fit on the undock? (Hint: They don't! :P)

A new, improved, much larger Jita 4-4 would make a lot of sense and add a ton of flavor. Trade hub stations ought to have grown in size more. :) So say in Rens, Dodixie, and Amarr maybe too. That Emperor Family Academy sure is used for a lot more than schooling, yet it remains one of the smaller Amarr stations.

EDIT: The scale of anything is hard for me to really get into well just because it's difficult to experience it in the game. When you're flying something large and you zoom in on something small it seems to be there, but when flying something small the only way you can really get a sense of scale is by centering on something large and looking at yourself as the small ship around it -- not by centering on yourself and feeling the sense of something giant looming over you. Not exactly something up for "fixing" as I don't even know how you'd begin to approach something like that, but just an observation. How much would scaling up capitals change the perception of them to smaller vessels?



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Aracimia Wolfe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#127 - 2012-12-12 19:08:42 UTC
The only ships I really don't like the look of is the Dominix, but tbh I think a consensus opinion is not going to be easy to find, I want to punch everyone who mentioned the Moa by default for example.

Two winged omen would be sweet though

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#128 - 2012-12-12 19:16:36 UTC
Improve the texture resolution on the Raven. Add two more dedicated launcher hardpoints to the main hull, so navy issue ravens don't have wingtip launchers.

Katrina Oniseki

Angang Ostus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#129 - 2012-12-13 04:26:24 UTC
Cyclone looks really low-res painted over. Needs more detail like the Rupture. Imicus is maaaaaybe an acquired taste for some....but I think Gallente explorers/scouts deserve something more pleasing to look at. Celestis needs more detail, less blockyness.
Lina Alar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2012-12-13 04:38:23 UTC
Drones. Please make them shoot out of their guns.

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Gal'o Sengen
Doomheim
#131 - 2012-12-13 05:14:37 UTC
DOM-I-NIX.
It doesn't need a "touch up" so much as a complete redesign. Give it a more Aircraft Carrier look, give it anything, just something that isn't a Potato.

Rupture too. It's just ugly, especially the protrusion that look like a Wang, which just so happens to be half way between the "leg" and the Smiley face.

I actually like the Moa strangely. It grew on me.
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2012-12-13 05:17:45 UTC
Moa needs a wrecking ball instead of touch-ups, but yeah, give the Moa some lov'n.
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2012-12-13 05:37:55 UTC
My entire issue with the Dominix is that, from a manufacturing standpoint, it just seems like so much time/effort to have that many unnecessary curvatures. I mean - think about what you have to do in order to make that shape.

A.) You have to super heat the metal so that it's malleable and then bend it to that position.
B.) You have to make a mold of that shape with which the metals are formed.

Just seems like a lot of unnecessary work by comparison to, say, the Megathron which has mostly flat surfaces. I get that Gallente go for an organic feel and honestly I like it, but the Dominix (and the Celestis) just look fracking bizarre compared to everything else.

Duvolle Labs making the Nemesis look as sick as it does makes sense.
Roden coming up with the Enyo? Hell yeah.

So it makes absolutely no sense to me that both of these companies would manufacture models of the Celestis in the way that they do as bizarre of a hull that it is.

Creodrone... yeah, I get that much.. Helios/Sin... Just makes sense that they'd do some off the wall **** like that...

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Eight Two
SWIFT Inc.
#134 - 2012-12-13 05:41:13 UTC
Moa/Gila. Seriously. It looks like a disgruntled briefcase holder had a incestuous relationship with a bird.

Caracal. Best example of taking a sleek, fast looking design... then adding a staircase and a flipped U at the back of it.

Bantam, Griffin, Kitsune, see Moa. Obviously that disgrunteled briefcaseholder had a lot of weird relationships.

Typhoon + Variants. Looks like a trashcan with engines. Actually, trashcans look better. Also, last time I checked Panthers were in fact not trashcans. Do not try this at home kids.

Dominix. Someone seems to have digestion problems. Note to CCP: We do not want to fly what comes out of your glorious behinds after the morning coffee.

Condor/Badger could use some love as well.

Succubus. See Dominix. No, we don't even want to fly small pieces of poo.

Brutix: We also don't want to fly poo that has been stretched into a different shape than regular poo.

Hookbill. This one could look so awesome if you only cut the nose and moved the launchers to a less stick-out position.

Imicus. What is this, I don't even...?

Ospery/Basilisk. See Imicus.

Blackbird. What exactly is holding this thing together at speeds greater than 3mil km/s?

Emergent Locus Analyzers for T3. So bonuses to probes and assorted launchers does have to look ugly, huh? Exception: Legion - Mini Avatar.

Caldari Shuttle: The smaller the uglier. Adding glow to the cockpit didn't help. Really.

Arbitrator Hull: Improved drone bay and maybe a straight hull on the nose section.

Thorax, see Arby hull, that thing would look so awesome if the hull was straight. (Inb4 it's not gay!)

Hoarder. I am not even sure what it should resemble?

Raven: Could use a massive texture rework. The better Eve's graphics get the more it looks out of place. Same for CNR.

The Caps mentioned so far would be a good choice for a redesign however:

Wyvern. Note to designer: If it's not evident where the front is when the engines are off, it's probably a bad design. The Leviathan is a good guidline on how to do it.

Also: Erebus and Moros, which side is up?

I appreciate the designers trying to give us ships that look alien in shape but too much is never a good thing. Please, we're supposed to look at that for hours. Take the Coercer for example, the Stabber, the Algos.

They look awesome in that they're alien enough to set the mood but believable to be actually created by humans. Not by some weird force int he universe randomly forming polygons until it looks ugly enough. Or even worse, created by a disgruntled briefcaseholder having ... well you get the idea.

A complete hull rework patch/ small things improvements for the next expansion would be something worth doing to please both PvP and PvEers
Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2012-12-13 06:11:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Agromos nulKaedi
The thing that got to me was that I had flown caldari awhile long ago and gone "OK, so fashion of the era is big on asymmetrical, i'm good with that", but then the new clothes came out and they're symmetrical.

Still, the incursus needs help, even if it's not "ugly" so much as under developed. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ncKTo_fI4 at 1:10. What is that? Is that supposed to be... an Incursus? Then why does the one in my hangar look so much like something that a grade schooler made out of a cardboard box and some cardboard tubes?

I'd like the Imicus a bit better if the "melted chocolate bar" look looked a bit more "angled" and less "lol I left my chocolate in the sun".
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#136 - 2012-12-13 06:45:30 UTC
Agromos nulKaedi wrote:
The thing that got to me was that I had flown caldari awhile long ago and gone "OK, so fashion of the era is big on asymmetrical, i'm good with that", but then the new clothes came out and they're symmetrical.

Still, the incursus needs help, even if it's not "ugly" so much as under developed. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ncKTo_fI4 at 1:10. What is that? Is that supposed to be... an Incursus? Then why does the one in my hangar look so much like something that a grade schooler made out of a cardboard box and some cardboard tubes?

I'd like the Imicus a bit better if the "melted chocolate bar" look looked a bit more "angled" and less "lol I left my chocolate in the sun".


Incursus eh?Roll You really must be new here if you don't know it's a proteus.

wumbo

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#137 - 2012-12-13 07:14:31 UTC
Those snot rockets, better known as the Imicus and the Celestis, really need some help off of planet Ugly.


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Ra'Shyne Viper
Native Freshfood
#138 - 2012-12-13 07:14:45 UTC
All dreads(minus minmatar)(add a pirate faction dread), all carriers(minus minmatar) all titans (minus avatar)(i feel like somethings missing from the levy)


mostly all ships atm need a little love

I love what you guys did with the Stealth bombers("same hull" completely different loooking ship.) which makes it looks like the t2 ship is an UPGRADE of the t1 hull and not just some cheap reskin.

i believe all t2 ships need an upgraded look from their t1 counter part to make it appear it's actually an upgraded ship.

I also believe there are a few plain hulls that need some extra love( the most obvious moa.)

comparing the designs of the ships with the older and newer, the newer ships don't fit in with the older. they stick out.


Also, if you're going to add the npc logos on the ships, add them to the rest.

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Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2012-12-13 07:57:30 UTC
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
All dreads(minus minmatar)(add a pirate faction dread), all carriers(minus minmatar) all titans (minus avatar)(i feel like somethings missing from the levy)


mostly all ships atm need a little love

I love what you guys did with the Stealth bombers("same hull" completely different loooking ship.) which makes it looks like the t2 ship is an UPGRADE of the t1 hull and not just some cheap reskin.

i believe all t2 ships need an upgraded look from their t1 counter part to make it appear it's actually an upgraded ship.

I also believe there are a few plain hulls that need some extra love( the most obvious moa.)

comparing the designs of the ships with the older and newer, the newer ships don't fit in with the older. they stick out.


Also, if you're going to add the npc logos on the ships, add them to the rest.


Probably going to be more subtle differences rather than drastic ones like we saw with the Stealth Bombers.

Reason I say this is because most T2 variants only have the most remote of changes. The new Tempest/Vargur model for instance having different solar panels, the new Stabber/Vagabond with the Vagabond actually -having- solar panels.

Shame really. Wouldn't mind the Kronos looking a bit more sinister than it's Megathron counterpart.

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Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#140 - 2012-12-13 08:19:41 UTC
Gallente shuttles.